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Re: Election 2020

Posted: Wed June 10, 2020 8:12 pm
by Mickey
liebzz wrote:Yeah, if Biden picked a male VP at this point the election would be over because he would have eroded any trust in him after going back on an easy a promise as that.

He needs someone that is quick on her feet and ready to be president if need be and potentially strong enough to run in 2024. I have no idea who that is. It probably can’t be Klobuchar or Harris because of their backgrounds and records as prosecutors. Other than that, I am glad to not have to make that decision.
Very few people are voting for Joe Biden because they trust him. This has been consistently noted in polling data where Biden is behind Trump in who voters trust with the economy, but leading in expected overall votes. Naming a man would be a massive gaffe but I don't think it would have any decisive effect on the election.

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Wed June 10, 2020 8:18 pm
by Rob
Mickey wrote:
liebzz wrote:Yeah, if Biden picked a male VP at this point the election would be over because he would have eroded any trust in him after going back on an easy a promise as that.

He needs someone that is quick on her feet and ready to be president if need be and potentially strong enough to run in 2024. I have no idea who that is. It probably can’t be Klobuchar or Harris because of their backgrounds and records as prosecutors. Other than that, I am glad to not have to make that decision.
Very few people are voting for Joe Biden because they trust him. This has been consistently noted in polling data where Biden is behind Trump in who voters trust with the economy, but leading in expected overall votes. Naming a man would be a massive gaffe but I don't think it would have any decisive effect on the election.
Eh, I've seen the polling that clearly shows Trump ahead of Biden on the general economy. But we've all seen evidence that the public trusts Biden more on plenty of other stuff, like race relations, climate change, healthcare, etc...

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Wed June 10, 2020 8:20 pm
by Mickey
Right, my point is that "trust," vaguely defined, is not the defining metric of this election, certainly not down to like, "keeping a promise about VP."

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Wed June 10, 2020 9:05 pm
by epilogue
I don't know why you guys are arguing about polling on the economy. I've been told that the economy is not something voters care about. It will not be a defining issue this election.

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Wed June 10, 2020 9:05 pm
by Mickey
durdencommatyler wrote:I don't know why you guys are arguing about polling on the economy. I've been told that the economy is not something voters care about. It will not be a defining issue this election.
Well for starters "the economy" doesn't exist.

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Wed June 10, 2020 9:08 pm
by epilogue
Mickey wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:I don't know why you guys are arguing about polling on the economy. I've been told that the economy is not something voters care about. It will not be a defining issue this election.
Well for starters "the economy" doesn't exist.
I was --- never mind.

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Thu June 11, 2020 2:31 am
by 96583UP
other possibilities in order to take swing states:

Biden / Rubio 2020: Little Marco's Revenge

Biden / Kemp 2020: You Work For Us

Biden / Wolf 2020: Relax, 71 is young

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Thu June 11, 2020 2:51 am
by McParadigm
1. Stephen Miller’s camp seems to be attempting to consolidate control of the dumbdumb.

2. How on earth is being more divisive going to win this election?

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Thu June 11, 2020 3:00 am
by BurtReynolds
It's weird how both candidates seem to be in a race to see how many votes they can lose.

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Thu June 11, 2020 3:04 am
by BurtReynolds
McParadigm wrote:
2. How on earth is being more divisive going to win this election?
No one wants a uniter this election

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Thu June 11, 2020 2:36 pm
by McParadigm
BurtReynolds wrote:
McParadigm wrote:
2. How on earth is being more divisive going to win this election?
No one wants a uniter this election
Sorry, let me rephrase: Donald Trump cannot won the election without expanding the number of Americans who feel welcomed into his tent from where it currently stands. His increasingly divisive approach is collapsing what little draw he had left among people not Republican/MAGA.

He needs MORE people to like him and want four more years of this than currently do. How is being divisive going to draw people into the tent who aren’t there now?

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Fri June 12, 2020 12:49 pm
by liebzz
McParadigm wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:
McParadigm wrote:
2. How on earth is being more divisive going to win this election?
No one wants a uniter this election
Sorry, let me rephrase: Donald Trump cannot won the election without expanding the number of Americans who feel welcomed into his tent from where it currently stands. His increasingly divisive approach is collapsing what little draw he had left among people not Republican/MAGA.

He needs MORE people to like him and want four more years of this than currently do. How is being divisive going to draw people into the tent who aren’t there now?
He already made his bed on this. Even if he were to suddenly be affable and encouraging to all people through November he will be working from the same pool of people. I think people are mostly decided and if they are not they are lying to you. This election is already won or lost. There’s not much point to the next 5 months.

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Fri June 12, 2020 7:33 pm
by McParadigm
lollllllll

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Fri June 12, 2020 7:36 pm
by doug rr
:lol:

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Fri June 12, 2020 7:47 pm
by epilogue
Woot

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Sun June 14, 2020 3:31 am
by 96583UP
this has now become the most boring election year in the history of election years

we always talked about how elections are endless and exhausting

we are now far removed from the days of the shit-hell circus of 23-person Dem primary debates

and it's just boring af

it's like it's not actually an election year

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Sun June 14, 2020 12:28 pm
by elliseamos
96583UP wrote:this has now become the most boring election year in the history of election years

we always talked about how elections are endless and exhausting

we are now far removed from the days of the shit-hell circus of 23-person Dem primary debates

and it's just boring af

it's like it's not actually an election year
bullshit. It's great that everyone has already decided whom to pick.

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Sun June 14, 2020 2:54 pm
by 96583UP
needs more pageantry

more pomp

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Sun June 14, 2020 3:09 pm
by Bammer
96583UP wrote:this has now become the most boring election year in the history of election years

we always talked about how elections are endless and exhausting

we are now far removed from the days of the shit-hell circus of 23-person Dem primary debates

and it's just boring af

it's like it's not actually an election year
Politics As Entertainment is a huge problem. You are part of the problem.

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Sun June 14, 2020 4:36 pm
by wease
96583UP wrote:needs more pageantry

more pomp
But not circumstance? Insane