Red Mosquito

Seriously. Everything you just posted was awesome, Joey.

BurtReynolds wrote:Short Round rules you bastard!

But he's equally as absurd and much more racist than Mutt. That's all I'm trying to say. People hold Crystal Skull to some nonexistent standard. Like it's sooooooooooo far below Temple of Doom. Really they're both about the same level of entertainment/absurdity/bullshit.

durdencommatyler wrote:

BurtReynolds wrote:Short Round rules you bastard!

But he's equally as absurd and much more racist than Mutt. That's all I'm trying to say. People hold Crystal Skull to some nonexistent standard. Like it's sooooooooooo far below Temple of Doom. Really they're both about the same level of entertainment/absurdity/bullshit.

They really aren't in the same league. Its not even close. The highs are higher, and the lows aren't nearly as low. I'd take Doom over Last Crusade, but both are miles better than that last one.

Kate Capshaw kinda sucks, and the raft scene is probably on par with the stupid shit in Skull, but other than that, its so much better. And all that over the top CG just doesn't fit in a Indiana Jones movie. Real bugs >>> CGI ants.

I think I'm going to watch all of the James Bond movies starting tonight with Dr No.

tommymtcom wrote:I think I'm going to watch all of the James Bond movies starting tonight with Dr No.

Do itttttttt

BurtReynolds wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

BurtReynolds wrote:Short Round rules you bastard!

But he's equally as absurd and much more racist than Mutt. That's all I'm trying to say. People hold Crystal Skull to some nonexistent standard. Like it's sooooooooooo far below Temple of Doom. Really they're both about the same level of entertainment/absurdity/bullshit.

They really aren't in the same league. Its not even close. The highs are higher, and the lows aren't nearly as low. I'd take Doom over Last Crusade, but both are miles better than that last one.

Kate Capshaw kinda sucks, and the raft scene is probably on par with the stupid shit in Skull, but other than that, its so much better. And all that over the top CG just doesn't fit in a Indiana Jones movie. Real bugs >>> CGI ants.

The CG aesthetic is hugely problematic. Not to mention the depressing sight of a geriatric Ford stumbling his way through the movie. The whole thing feels stiff and awkward (like his joints).

LoathedVermin72 wrote:

tommymtcom wrote:I think I'm going to watch all of the James Bond movies starting tonight with Dr No.

Do itttttttt

I've only ever seen two James Bond movies, Casino Royale and Skyfall. As an Englishman, I feel vaguely ashamed about that.

tommymtcom wrote:

LoathedVermin72 wrote:

tommymtcom wrote:I think I'm going to watch all of the James Bond movies starting tonight with Dr No.

Do itttttttt

I've only ever seen two James Bond movies, Casino Royale and Skyfall. As an Englishman, I feel vaguely ashamed about that.

Those are two of the worst.

LoathedVermin72 wrote:

tommymtcom wrote:

LoathedVermin72 wrote:

tommymtcom wrote:I think I'm going to watch all of the James Bond movies starting tonight with Dr No.

Do itttttttt

I've only ever seen two James Bond movies, Casino Royale and Skyfall. As an Englishman, I feel vaguely ashamed about that.

Those are two of the worst.

Rank the Bonds.

tommymtcom wrote:

LoathedVermin72 wrote:

tommymtcom wrote:

LoathedVermin72 wrote:

tommymtcom wrote:I think I'm going to watch all of the James Bond movies starting tonight with Dr No.

Do itttttttt

I've only ever seen two James Bond movies, Casino Royale and Skyfall. As an Englishman, I feel vaguely ashamed about that.

Those are two of the worst.

Rank the Bonds.

I'll do this once I'm actually at a computer (on my phone now).

BurtReynolds wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

BurtReynolds wrote:Short Round rules you bastard!

But he's equally as absurd and much more racist than Mutt. That's all I'm trying to say. People hold Crystal Skull to some nonexistent standard. Like it's sooooooooooo far below Temple of Doom. Really they're both about the same level of entertainment/absurdity/bullshit.

They really aren't in the same league. Its not even close. The highs are higher, and the lows aren't nearly as low. I'd take Doom over Last Crusade, but both are miles better than that last one.

Kate Capshaw kinda sucks, and the raft scene is probably on par with the stupid shit in Skull, but other than that, its so much better. And all that over the top CG just doesn't fit in a Indiana Jones movie. Real bugs >>> CGI ants.

Totally agree about the CGI.

But I think time and nostalgia has made the other Indy movies so much more precious to people than they actually are. Especially Temple of Doom, which even a kid I thought was pretty terrible. And hasn't aged well, at all.

LoathedVermin72 wrote:

tommymtcom wrote:

LoathedVermin72 wrote:

tommymtcom wrote:I think I'm going to watch all of the James Bond movies starting tonight with Dr No.

Do itttttttt

I've only ever seen two James Bond movies, Casino Royale and Skyfall. As an Englishman, I feel vaguely ashamed about that.

Those are two of the worst.

No surprise here, I suppose, but I really dig Skyfall.

Haven't seen Casino Royale.

durdencommatyler wrote:

BurtReynolds wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

BurtReynolds wrote:Short Round rules you bastard!

But he's equally as absurd and much more racist than Mutt. That's all I'm trying to say. People hold Crystal Skull to some nonexistent standard. Like it's sooooooooooo far below Temple of Doom. Really they're both about the same level of entertainment/absurdity/bullshit.

They really aren't in the same league. Its not even close. The highs are higher, and the lows aren't nearly as low. I'd take Doom over Last Crusade, but both are miles better than that last one.

Kate Capshaw kinda sucks, and the raft scene is probably on par with the stupid shit in Skull, but other than that, its so much better. And all that over the top CG just doesn't fit in a Indiana Jones movie. Real bugs >>> CGI ants.

Totally agree about the CGI.

But I think time and nostalgia has made the other Indy movies so much more precious to people than they actually are. Especially Temple of Doom, which even a kid I thought was pretty terrible. And hasn't aged well, at all.

Doom is a movie of extremes. It's both the darkest and silliest Indy movie, as opposed to the rather steady tone of Raiders and Crusade. And I love that about it. I love the ominous threat and horror that looms throughout it. But I also love the goofy, absurd humor. I think they balance each other out in just the right way. It will always be my favorite Indy movie, and one of my favorite movies period. But I realized a while ago that other people tend to have a hard time embracing the kind of ridiculous humor on display in stuff like this or Roland Emmerich or Michael Bay movies.

I only like Quantum of Solace, but I don't think that one is very popular with Bond fans.

LoathedVermin72 wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

BurtReynolds wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

BurtReynolds wrote:Short Round rules you bastard!

But he's equally as absurd and much more racist than Mutt. That's all I'm trying to say. People hold Crystal Skull to some nonexistent standard. Like it's sooooooooooo far below Temple of Doom. Really they're both about the same level of entertainment/absurdity/bullshit.

They really aren't in the same league. Its not even close. The highs are higher, and the lows aren't nearly as low. I'd take Doom over Last Crusade, but both are miles better than that last one.

Kate Capshaw kinda sucks, and the raft scene is probably on par with the stupid shit in Skull, but other than that, its so much better. And all that over the top CG just doesn't fit in a Indiana Jones movie. Real bugs >>> CGI ants.

Totally agree about the CGI.

But I think time and nostalgia has made the other Indy movies so much more precious to people than they actually are. Especially Temple of Doom, which even a kid I thought was pretty terrible. And hasn't aged well, at all.

Doom is a movie of extremes. It's both the darkest and silliest Indy movie, as opposed to the rather steady tone of Raiders and Crusade. And I love that about it. I love the ominous threat and horror that looms throughout it. But I also love the goofy, absurd humor. I think they balance each other out in just the right way. It will always be my favorite Indy movie, and one of my favorite movies period. But I realized a while ago that other people tend to have a hard time embracing the kind of ridiculous humor on display in stuff like this or Roland Emmerich or Michael Bay movies.

My issue with Doom isn't the mixture of humor and what you're calling horror. The ridiculous humor is the only thing that keeps Doom watchable on repeated viewings.

BurtReynolds wrote:I only like Quantum of Solace, but I don't think that one is very popular with Bond fans.

Yeah, it's bad. I'd hardly even call it a Bond movie.

durdencommatyler wrote:

LoathedVermin72 wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

BurtReynolds wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

BurtReynolds wrote:Short Round rules you bastard!

But he's equally as absurd and much more racist than Mutt. That's all I'm trying to say. People hold Crystal Skull to some nonexistent standard. Like it's sooooooooooo far below Temple of Doom. Really they're both about the same level of entertainment/absurdity/bullshit.

They really aren't in the same league. Its not even close. The highs are higher, and the lows aren't nearly as low. I'd take Doom over Last Crusade, but both are miles better than that last one.

Kate Capshaw kinda sucks, and the raft scene is probably on par with the stupid shit in Skull, but other than that, its so much better. And all that over the top CG just doesn't fit in a Indiana Jones movie. Real bugs >>> CGI ants.

Totally agree about the CGI.

But I think time and nostalgia has made the other Indy movies so much more precious to people than they actually are. Especially Temple of Doom, which even a kid I thought was pretty terrible. And hasn't aged well, at all.

Doom is a movie of extremes. It's both the darkest and silliest Indy movie, as opposed to the rather steady tone of Raiders and Crusade. And I love that about it. I love the ominous threat and horror that looms throughout it. But I also love the goofy, absurd humor. I think they balance each other out in just the right way. It will always be my favorite Indy movie, and one of my favorite movies period. But I realized a while ago that other people tend to have a hard time embracing the kind of ridiculous humor on display in stuff like this or Roland Emmerich or Michael Bay movies.

My issue with Doom isn't the mixture of humor and what you're calling horror. The ridiculous humor is the only thing that keeps Doom watchable on repeated viewings.

Then what the hell is your problem with it?

BurtReynolds wrote:I only like Quantum of Solace, but I don't think that one is very popular with Bond fans.

I like the theme song from that one a whole lot. But I haven't seen the movie. Most people I know who love Bond don't care for it, though. Whatever.

LoathedVermin72 wrote:

BurtReynolds wrote:I only like Quantum of Solace, but I don't think that one is very popular with Bond fans.

Yeah, it's bad. I'd hardly even call it a Bond movie.

probably explains why i generally hate Bond movies.

LoathedVermin72 wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

LoathedVermin72 wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

BurtReynolds wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

BurtReynolds wrote:Short Round rules you bastard!

But he's equally as absurd and much more racist than Mutt. That's all I'm trying to say. People hold Crystal Skull to some nonexistent standard. Like it's sooooooooooo far below Temple of Doom. Really they're both about the same level of entertainment/absurdity/bullshit.

They really aren't in the same league. Its not even close. The highs are higher, and the lows aren't nearly as low. I'd take Doom over Last Crusade, but both are miles better than that last one.

Kate Capshaw kinda sucks, and the raft scene is probably on par with the stupid shit in Skull, but other than that, its so much better. And all that over the top CG just doesn't fit in a Indiana Jones movie. Real bugs >>> CGI ants.

Totally agree about the CGI.

But I think time and nostalgia has made the other Indy movies so much more precious to people than they actually are. Especially Temple of Doom, which even a kid I thought was pretty terrible. And hasn't aged well, at all.

Doom is a movie of extremes. It's both the darkest and silliest Indy movie, as opposed to the rather steady tone of Raiders and Crusade. And I love that about it. I love the ominous threat and horror that looms throughout it. But I also love the goofy, absurd humor. I think they balance each other out in just the right way. It will always be my favorite Indy movie, and one of my favorite movies period. But I realized a while ago that other people tend to have a hard time embracing the kind of ridiculous humor on display in stuff like this or Roland Emmerich or Michael Bay movies.

My issue with Doom isn't the mixture of humor and what you're calling horror. The ridiculous humor is the only thing that keeps Doom watchable on repeated viewings.

Then what the hell is your problem with it?

Shitty writing. Terrible VFX. Kate Capshaw. Lack of any real sense of danger. Poor editing. Underwhelming performances. Meandering plot. Shitty writing. No dramatic tension. Cartoon villains. Trope after trope after trope. Lacks a sense of fun/adventure. Poor attempt at "horror." Wonky pacing. Shitty writing. Antidotes and poisons. Opening musical number. Unintentional racist undertones. Feels really proud of itself. Nothing is earned.

I could go on and on. But there you go.