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Re: Election 2020

Posted: Sun June 21, 2020 5:05 am
by McParadigm
At last we have definitive proof that Donald Trump doesn’t hire people to attend his rallies

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Sun June 21, 2020 5:06 am
by Norah
At least he hasn't so far.

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Sun June 21, 2020 7:16 am
by Higgs
Superblood Wolfmoon wrote:I can respect wanting to hear from both sides but after four years of this shit, it’s clear that most Americans are ready to get off this ride and as such aren’t really interested in a deep dive into every word of Joe Biden’s history. He was the previous VP for 8 years, and has been a fixture in American politics for decades. If they had shit that sticks, it was played long ago.

Despite the vocal minority, Obama left office with a high approval rate and tons of respect around the world. People take for granted how squeaky clean his administration was, during a time of vicious opposition for six years that would have loved to have a shred of anything close to the kind of shit Trump has gotten away with, and they had nothing other than Benghazi bullshit and Hillary’s emails, two things that did some damage to Clinton in 2016, but won’t touch Biden.

Trump is an utter failure on so many levels, and to be honest, most people are tired of giving the PHATJ’s of the world a platform to spew their pea-brained distortions or reality. We’ve seen and heard enough.
I think I can speak for the rest of the world in saying that everyone outside the US was so shocked that y'all elected Trump in 2016 - I mean there was no way you were going to do something THAT crazy - that now I believe there is no way that any outcome is out-of-the-question in this election. You guys did some crazy-assed shit last time, who knows what you'll go and do this time.

You say you're all sick of him but that doesn't equate to getting rid of him. And polls aren't votes. Our conservative govt was toast 4 weeks out from our last election but managed a mini-miracle to retain power.

Anyway, I will of course get the majority of my US election news from other sources, but I do enjoy the real life glimpse of everyday Americans I am afforded by RM by you all, my friends here. I appreciate as a PJ board it is well left leaning and liberal. That's what makes the voices that push against that tide perhaps a little more interesting at times. I just wish those same voices were making a little more sensible argument right now rather than spitting out what I am beginning to believe is the standard position of almost all pro-Trump positions: basic-entry-level-constant-deflection-in-all-cases so endorsed by the Trump administration.

Oh, and once again speaking for the rest of the world here, I can confirm that Obama absolutely left office in extremely high regard. He was a gentleman who represented your country with a noble grace. He seemed a reasonable man.

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Sun June 21, 2020 2:17 pm
by wease
cutuphalfdead wrote:At least he hasn't so far.

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Sun June 21, 2020 2:18 pm
by wease
Higgs wrote:
Superblood Wolfmoon wrote:I can respect wanting to hear from both sides but after four years of this shit, it’s clear that most Americans are ready to get off this ride and as such aren’t really interested in a deep dive into every word of Joe Biden’s history. He was the previous VP for 8 years, and has been a fixture in American politics for decades. If they had shit that sticks, it was played long ago.

Despite the vocal minority, Obama left office with a high approval rate and tons of respect around the world. People take for granted how squeaky clean his administration was, during a time of vicious opposition for six years that would have loved to have a shred of anything close to the kind of shit Trump has gotten away with, and they had nothing other than Benghazi bullshit and Hillary’s emails, two things that did some damage to Clinton in 2016, but won’t touch Biden.

Trump is an utter failure on so many levels, and to be honest, most people are tired of giving the PHATJ’s of the world a platform to spew their pea-brained distortions or reality. We’ve seen and heard enough.
I think I can speak for the rest of the world in saying that everyone outside the US was so shocked that y'all elected Trump in 2016 - I mean there was no way you were going to do something THAT crazy - that now I believe there is no way that any outcome is out-of-the-question in this election. You guys did some crazy-assed shit last time, who knows what you'll go and do this time.

You say you're all sick of him but that doesn't equate to getting rid of him. And polls aren't votes. Our conservative govt was toast 4 weeks out from our last election but managed a mini-miracle to retain power.

Anyway, I will of course get the majority of my US election news from other sources, but I do enjoy the real life glimpse of everyday Americans I am afforded by RM by you all, my friends here. I appreciate as a PJ board it is well left leaning and liberal. That's what makes the voices that push against that tide perhaps a little more interesting at times. I just wish those same voices were making a little more sensible argument right now rather than spitting out what I am beginning to believe is the standard position of almost all pro-Trump positions: basic-entry-level-constant-deflection-in-all-cases so endorsed by the Trump administration.

Oh, and once again speaking for the rest of the world here, I can confirm that Obama absolutely left office in extremely high regard. He was a gentleman who represented your country with a noble grace. He seemed a reasonable man.
But he was black. And that cannot go unpunished!

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Sun June 21, 2020 2:25 pm
by Bi_3
Superblood Wolfmoon wrote:That dismal showing in Oklahoma of all places was pretty telling. I’m willing to bet they make some excuse quickly to cancel the Arizona rally next week.
They chose not to do a fan club pre-sale and just do the public. Rookie mistake.

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Sun June 21, 2020 2:27 pm
by McParadigm
Barely 6,000 people. My god.

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Sun June 21, 2020 2:27 pm
by Bammer
What are the chances Drumpf ousts Pence to energize his ticket and who is the replacement?

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Sun June 21, 2020 2:32 pm
by Bi_3

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Sun June 21, 2020 2:38 pm
by McParadigm
It’s a good prank, but it doesn’t actually explain the missing crowd at all. The campaign used this same approach to signups in 2016, and in at least a few rallies since. And they’ve even been pranked by fake signups before. It didn’t matter, because *his base turned out.* They showed up, rain or shine.

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Sun June 21, 2020 2:49 pm
by McParadigm
If you’re the Trump team, and for nearly 4 months you’ve watched your numbers cratering, and you’ve been telling yourself that the rallies will bring back the energy and the pomp and the sense of flexed might...what do you do now? The worst thing that could happen would be for you to plan more rallies, and have them turn out like this one.

They’ve been saying “wait until we get the rallies going” for months. Now they must be scared to schedule more.

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Sun June 21, 2020 3:11 pm
by Bammer
I don’t understand the concept of throwing a rally attended by people who would already vote for you even if you raped their daughter right in front of them.

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Sun June 21, 2020 3:23 pm
by McParadigm
Bammer wrote:I don’t understand the concept of throwing a rally attended by people who would already vote for you even if you raped their daughter right in front of them.
The footage of him holding court in front of big crowds is a source of confidence in more remote areas, because it reassures people who feel isolated by America’s cultural and demographic changes that they secretly are a part of a majority.

Trump drawing big crowds in their own backyard demonstrates to Republican politicians from the area that they need his support to win, and thus keeps them loyal.

The fundraising and voter data pull is huge.

It’s like being a Cubs fan in the stadium in 2016. Years of keeping the faith are paying off, and you’re celebrating it together.

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Sun June 21, 2020 4:38 pm
by verb_to_trust
McParadigm wrote:If you’re the Trump team, and for nearly 4 months you’ve watched your numbers cratering, and you’ve been telling yourself that the rallies will bring back the energy and the pomp and the sense of flexed might...what do you do now? The worst thing that could happen would be for you to plan more rallies, and have them turn out like this one.

They’ve been saying “wait until we get the rallies going” for months. Now they must be scared to schedule more.
You go to a state being hard hit by the virus and scream about how you're doing a great job inside some arena. Duh.

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Sun June 21, 2020 5:58 pm
by Norah
McParadigm wrote:If you’re the Trump team, and for nearly 4 months you’ve watched your numbers cratering, and you’ve been telling yourself that the rallies will bring back the energy and the pomp and the sense of flexed might...what do you do now? The worst thing that could happen would be for you to plan more rallies, and have them turn out like this one.

They’ve been saying “wait until we get the rallies going” for months. Now they must be scared to schedule more.
Hmmm, maybe we should have some debates.

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Mon June 22, 2020 5:44 pm
by Bi_3
cutuphalfdead wrote:
McParadigm wrote:If you’re the Trump team, and for nearly 4 months you’ve watched your numbers cratering, and you’ve been telling yourself that the rallies will bring back the energy and the pomp and the sense of flexed might...what do you do now? The worst thing that could happen would be for you to plan more rallies, and have them turn out like this one.

They’ve been saying “wait until we get the rallies going” for months. Now they must be scared to schedule more.
Hmmm, maybe we should have some debates.
Given Joe's mental issues, this strategy might work.

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Mon June 22, 2020 5:55 pm
by Rob
Bi_3 wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
McParadigm wrote:If you’re the Trump team, and for nearly 4 months you’ve watched your numbers cratering, and you’ve been telling yourself that the rallies will bring back the energy and the pomp and the sense of flexed might...what do you do now? The worst thing that could happen would be for you to plan more rallies, and have them turn out like this one.

They’ve been saying “wait until we get the rallies going” for months. Now they must be scared to schedule more.
Hmmm, maybe we should have some debates.
Given Joe's mental issues, this strategy might work.
Yea that'll definitely work, until 5 minutes in when Trump explains to us all that we'd be corona-free if we stopped testing people for it (followed by 2 more hours of nonsense).

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Mon June 22, 2020 6:11 pm
by tragabigzanda
FUCK ICE

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Mon June 22, 2020 6:13 pm
by epilogue
No. There isn't an avoidance at all.

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Mon June 22, 2020 6:15 pm
by tragabigzanda
FUCK ICE