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Re: Fall 2013 North American Tour

Posted: Mon July 15, 2013 4:35 am
by Lament
Birds in Hell wrote: His best shot is at choice 1 but, even then, that's far from certain since the NYC shows will be in very high demand. 10C have already confirmed that the GA sections have significantly less tickets available than reserved, so I imagine the GA section on both NYC shows (and most others) will be sold out on first preferences alone. As such, he's throwing away choices 2 and 4 as there's almost zero chance of him getting picked. Being selected for choice 3 is only possible if there are still 10C tickets left after everyone who put Brooklyn Night 1 Reserved at preference 1 and preference 2 has already been selected; that seems like a pretty slim chance to me. Same for choice 5: this guy only stands a chance if there are still tickets remaining once everyone who put Hartford Reserved at pref 1, 2, 3 and 4 has been selected. Again, I'm rather pessimistic. If he really wants to go to both Brooklyn 2 and Hartford, I'd be putting them at pref 1 and 2 and hoping for the best.
I have no idea why anybody would bother to put anything for Brooklyn or Philadelphia as a second option if there is any possible other shows they can make. I can't imagine any option for any of those shows will be unpopular enough that they'll get through everyone who had their #1 choice given to them. I get if you have no other shows as options putting them all in there, but there's no way you're getting anything other than your first choice.

Also, you'd be amazed how many people still think they just put all of the names in a hat, pick out a set, and then try to give everyone their highest option available. I have no idea why anyone thinks this, but there are a lot of people who think this is how it works. Inevitably some people who had Brooklyn or Philadelphia as their top choices will be furious and ready to decry the system when people are able to get tickets for both Dallas & OKC, or Charlottesville & Charlotte, or some other combination of less popular shows.

Re: Fall 2013 North American Tour

Posted: Mon July 15, 2013 4:45 am
by Birds in Hell
Lament wrote:Also, you'd be amazed how many people still think they just put all of the names in a hat, pick out a set, and then try to give everyone their highest option available. I have no idea why anyone thinks this, but there are a lot of people who think this is how it works.
Haha, yes, I've seen this a lot. It's no mystery, 10C have actually made it pretty clear:
Q: How does the show priority selection factor in to the drawing?

A: For each show we will randomly draw members who have made that show their #1 priority. If any tickets remain the system will randomly draw names of members who have chosen that show as their #2 priority, and so on until every ticket for a given show has been sold.

Re: Fall 2013 North American Tour

Posted: Mon July 15, 2013 6:23 am
by Charlie
Birds in Hell wrote:
Lament wrote:Also, you'd be amazed how many people still think they just put all of the names in a hat, pick out a set, and then try to give everyone their highest option available. I have no idea why anyone thinks this, but there are a lot of people who think this is how it works.
Haha, yes, I've seen this a lot. It's no mystery, 10C have actually made it pretty clear:
Q: How does the show priority selection factor in to the drawing?

A: For each show we will randomly draw members who have made that show their #1 priority. If any tickets remain the system will randomly draw names of members who have chosen that show as their #2 priority, and so on until every ticket for a given show has been sold.

Thanks. Now I've gone back and read your previous post. Makes perfect sense.

Re: Fall 2013 North American Tour

Posted: Mon July 15, 2013 9:52 am
by jdopj
Birds in Hell wrote:
Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:What are the people who don't understand the system gonna do?
Here's the choices that guy posted a few pages back:
1) Brooklyn Night 2 - Reserved
2) Brooklyn Night 2 - Floor
3) Brooklyn Night 1 - Reserved
4) Brooklyn Night 1 - Floor
5) Hartford - Reserved
6) Hartford - Floor
His best shot is at choice 1 but, even then, that's far from certain since the NYC shows will be in very high demand. 10C have already confirmed that the GA sections have significantly less tickets available than reserved, so I imagine the GA section on both NYC shows (and most others) will be sold out on first preferences alone. As such, he's throwing away choices 2 and 4 as there's almost zero chance of him getting picked. Being selected for choice 3 is only possible if there are still 10C tickets left after everyone who put Brooklyn Night 1 Reserved at preference 1 and preference 2 has already been selected; that seems like a pretty slim chance to me. Same for choice 5: this guy only stands a chance if there are still tickets remaining once everyone who put Hartford Reserved at pref 1, 2, 3 and 4 has been selected. Again, I'm rather pessimistic. If he really wants to go to both Brooklyn 2 and Hartford, I'd be putting them at pref 1 and 2 and hoping for the best.
With system the way it is, your best bet is to (using the above guys show choices would be to go
1. Brooklyn 2 Res
2. Hartford Res

That would give the best shot at 2 shows. The reality is if you don't order your picks right for popular shows, you make it hard on yourself.

Re: Fall 2013 North American Tour

Posted: Mon July 15, 2013 11:48 am
by Dr. Van Nostrand
Lament wrote:
Birds in Hell wrote: His best shot is at choice 1 but, even then, that's far from certain since the NYC shows will be in very high demand. 10C have already confirmed that the GA sections have significantly less tickets available than reserved, so I imagine the GA section on both NYC shows (and most others) will be sold out on first preferences alone. As such, he's throwing away choices 2 and 4 as there's almost zero chance of him getting picked. Being selected for choice 3 is only possible if there are still 10C tickets left after everyone who put Brooklyn Night 1 Reserved at preference 1 and preference 2 has already been selected; that seems like a pretty slim chance to me. Same for choice 5: this guy only stands a chance if there are still tickets remaining once everyone who put Hartford Reserved at pref 1, 2, 3 and 4 has been selected. Again, I'm rather pessimistic. If he really wants to go to both Brooklyn 2 and Hartford, I'd be putting them at pref 1 and 2 and hoping for the best.
I have no idea why anybody would bother to put anything for Brooklyn or Philadelphia as a second option if there is any possible other shows they can make. I can't imagine any option for any of those shows will be unpopular enough that they'll get through everyone who had their #1 choice given to them. I get if you have no other shows as options putting them all in there, but there's no way you're getting anything other than your first choice.

Also, you'd be amazed how many people still think they just put all of the names in a hat, pick out a set, and then try to give everyone their highest option available. I have no idea why anyone thinks this, but there are a lot of people who think this is how it works. Inevitably some people who had Brooklyn or Philadelphia as their top choices will be furious and ready to decry the system when people are able to get tickets for both Dallas & OKC, or Charlottesville & Charlotte, or some other combination of less popular shows.
charlotte and charlottesville are the combo im going for, but i just put in for charlottesville seated as my #1 and Charlotte seated as my #2, i maybe should have reversed them but if i miss out on charlotte with it being my #2 then ill be ok getting tickets through the public sale

Re: Fall 2013 North American Tour

Posted: Mon July 15, 2013 12:19 pm
by Simple Torture
Since my brother is fronting the cash for this and he can only do weekend shows, we only put in for Hartford. My stra-te-gery was to put Seated first, figuring more people would put in for GA Standing? I have no idea if that'll work.

Re: Fall 2013 North American Tour

Posted: Mon July 15, 2013 12:21 pm
by Kevin Davis
I'm so glad I'm not a 10C member. This shit seems so much more complicated and unduly stressful than just getting a ticket from Ticketmaster and dealing with having bad seats.

Re: Fall 2013 North American Tour

Posted: Mon July 15, 2013 12:23 pm
by commo
oh snap......

"Pearl Jam 2013 Leg 2
This ticket draw is currently running. You will be notified when the final drawing has been made."

Re: Fall 2013 North American Tour

Posted: Mon July 15, 2013 12:31 pm
by Dr. Van Nostrand
commo wrote:oh snap......

"Pearl Jam 2013 Leg 2
This ticket draw is currently running. You will be notified when the final drawing has been made."
does that mean we should know pretty soon, or will they draw this out for days?

Re: Fall 2013 North American Tour

Posted: Mon July 15, 2013 12:38 pm
by commo
Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:
commo wrote:oh snap......

"Pearl Jam 2013 Leg 2
This ticket draw is currently running. You will be notified when the final drawing has been made."
does that mean we should know pretty soon, or will they draw this out for days?
That's what that 96 day countdown clock is for on their page...lol

Actually, I think they said it updates in real time as tickets are drawn, of course we have no idea where we will be sitting if we get reserved seats until we pick up tix at will call on day of show. Also it's only 530am on west coast and we know damn well they're not up yet unless they're sitting in traffic on I-5

Re: Fall 2013 North American Tour

Posted: Mon July 15, 2013 12:44 pm
by Dr. Van Nostrand
commo wrote:
Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:
commo wrote:oh snap......

"Pearl Jam 2013 Leg 2
This ticket draw is currently running. You will be notified when the final drawing has been made."
does that mean we should know pretty soon, or will they draw this out for days?
That's what that 96 day countdown clock is for on their page...lol

Actually, I think they said it updates in real time as tickets are drawn, of course we have no idea where we will be sitting if we get reserved seats until we pick up tix at will call on day of show. Also it's only 530am on west coast and we know damn well they're not up yet unless they're sitting in traffic on I-5
yeah, i was kinda surprised it was saying that the drawing was currently running, but i assume it was just a line they added to the ticket page before they went to bed or something, just for a appearance of progress being made

Re: Fall 2013 North American Tour

Posted: Mon July 15, 2013 12:45 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
The "Ticket Rules" page says you have until 10 a.m. Pacific time to enter your name into the drawing.

Re: Fall 2013 North American Tour

Posted: Mon July 15, 2013 12:47 pm
by lowlight79
Once spennarella broke it down for me. I changed my first choice to Hartford. What time is this bitch going down?

Re: Fall 2013 North American Tour

Posted: Mon July 15, 2013 12:48 pm
by jdopj
Kevin Davis wrote:I'm so glad I'm not a 10C member. This shit seems so much more complicated and unduly stressful than just getting a ticket from Ticketmaster and dealing with having bad seats.
It's not that bad. Wrigley kind of taught everyone a lot (or should have). Out of 3 people I know that went 1. GA 2. Res/field only one got tix. So while wrigley demand was extremely high you can use it as a guide.

Re: Fall 2013 North American Tour

Posted: Mon July 15, 2013 1:12 pm
by Dr. Van Nostrand
anyone heard rumors of 2nd shows being added for any places that dont already have 2? and are they playing all 3 days at voodoo or just one of them?

Re: Fall 2013 North American Tour

Posted: Mon July 15, 2013 1:39 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
Is anyone running a fantasy tournament this tour?

Re: Fall 2013 North American Tour

Posted: Mon July 15, 2013 1:56 pm
by Dr. Van Nostrand
E.H. Ruddock wrote:Is anyone running a fantasy tournament this tour?
who has run it in the past? i know rick has but if he isnt really posting then he probably wont.

Re: Fall 2013 North American Tour

Posted: Mon July 15, 2013 2:08 pm
by Simple Torture
Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:anyone heard rumors of 2nd shows being added for any places that dont already have 2? and are they playing all 3 days at voodoo or just one of them?
The same guy who leaked the cities in advance of the announcement says there's a good chance for 2nd shows in Worcester and Seattle; it was in the Live forum, 2013 rumors thread.

Re: Fall 2013 North American Tour

Posted: Mon July 15, 2013 3:24 pm
by mray10
Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:anyone heard rumors of 2nd shows being added for any places that dont already have 2? and are they playing all 3 days at voodoo or just one of them?
just one night in NO, but not known which night, yet

Re: Fall 2013 North American Tour

Posted: Mon July 15, 2013 4:14 pm
by logan5ive
Simple Torture wrote:
Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:anyone heard rumors of 2nd shows being added for any places that dont already have 2? and are they playing all 3 days at voodoo or just one of them?
The same guy who leaked the cities in advance of the announcement says there's a good chance for 2nd shows in Worcester and Seattle; it was in the Live forum, 2013 rumors thread.
This.