Red Mosquito

BurtReynolds wrote:As much as I loathe everything about Backspacer, PJ has actually been on a small win streak with me lately.

Of The Earth, Ole, and now MYM. I like em all. In fact, I think they are pretty great songs. Not Earth-shattering by any means, but still. A streak is a streak.

My hopes are raised.

theplatypus wrote:I know this is very cynical of me, but I can't help but think that some people are kind of forcing themselves to like this song. I think if you presented this same song with a different singer (say a Bob Mould or a Greg? Graffin) to a bunch of Pearl Jam fans, most of them would go "meh."

harmless wrote:

BurtReynolds wrote:As much as I loathe everything about Backspacer, PJ has actually been on a small win streak with me lately.

Of The Earth, Ole, and now MYM. I like em all. In fact, I think they are pretty great songs. Not Earth-shattering by any means, but still. A streak is a streak.

My hopes are raised.

Hard to believe, finally the hopes shades are raised!

Chris_H_2 wrote:

theplatypus wrote:I know this is very cynical of me, but I can't help but think that some people are kind of forcing themselves to like this song. I think if you presented this same song with a different singer (say a Bob Mould or a Greg? Graffin) to a bunch of Pearl Jam fans, most of them would go "meh."

Not only that, but if everything about this song remained unchanged, including the music, Eddie's voice, etc., and you were to hear this song for the first time and the band Pearl Jam never existed, people would think "meh."

darth_vedder wrote:

harmless wrote:

BurtReynolds wrote:As much as I loathe everything about Backspacer, PJ has actually been on a small win streak with me lately.

Of The Earth, Ole, and now MYM. I like em all. In fact, I think they are pretty great songs. Not Earth-shattering by any means, but still. A streak is a streak.

My hopes are raised.

Hard to believe, finally the hopes shades are raised!

evenslow wrote:

E.H. Ruddock wrote:

isn't that dude with the bleach-ass hair someone in their org?

harmless wrote:

theplatypus wrote:I know this is very cynical of me, but I can't help but think that some people are kind of forcing themselves to like this song. I think if you presented this same song with a different singer (say a Bob Mould or a Greg? Graffin) to a bunch of Pearl Jam fans, most of them would go "meh."

Jorge, you of all people should acknowledge that this non-argument is ridiculous. Because if you replaced the guitars on STBC with jazz piano and presented it to PJ fans, most of them would go "Meh". I don't get that removing the vocals ON A PJ SONG proves anything. If I took Ed off most of PJ's catalogue I would like it less.

hlniv wrote:

dimejinky99 wrote:Well this explains a lot

http://www.lightningbolt-usa.com/Bolt/about

"If you're a Pearl Jam fan you're going to love it," says a proud Mike of the album, "and even if you're not, maybe it'll turn you into one!"Mike explained that the writing process for the album before recording began with longtime friend and producer Brendan O'Brien was a drawn-out affair even by the Seattle legends' standards."We started it two years ago," says Mike, "then we had to pull back. We finished seven songs two years ago and we had to take some time to figure out what we wanted to do. And write some more songs. So about four months ago we started up again with a brand new batch of songs to go along with those."I think getting away from them and taking the time to do it, and discussing with Brendan O'Brien who is producing it, having many meetings between ourselves about these things, yet keeping it fresh while we were recording it."And the guitarist believes that taking their time has definitely paid off."I think it's helped. I think it's going to be really cool record and I'm very excited about it. Every artist says that about their new thing but I feel like we've been through a long journey to get there and it was totally worth it."For more on Mike McCready read the full feature on his role in supergroup Mad Season in issue 243 of Total Guitar.

EJ wrote:Should be plenty of material left for the EP.

theplatypus wrote:

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Strat wrote:

Ledbetterman10 wrote:

EJ wrote:

McParadigm wrote:

I think it just comes down to "I like to hear these guys play, and Eddie Vedder sing."

I think this is probably exactly the mentality.

Its been that way for a long time.

That's how it is for me for the most part. It's not that I like every Pearl Jam song. But if you take a brand new song that I never heard before, have Pearl Jam play it, and have another band play it, I'd like the Pearl Jam version better.

Yea and i dont understand why this is a bad thing or why we shouldnt then like this song

It's not a bad thing.

It's not a bad thing, but it evinces some kind of failure in critical thinking. The idea that a song is made inherently better or more enjoyable just because it's being played by this particular group of people, performance or songwriting themselves notwithstanding.

stupidmop wrote:http://www.musicradar.com/news/guitars/ ... olt-580058

"If you're a Pearl Jam fan you're going to love it," says a proud Mike of the album, "and even if you're not, maybe it'll turn you into one!"Mike explained that the writing process for the album before recording began with longtime friend and producer Brendan O'Brien was a drawn-out affair even by the Seattle legends' standards."We started it two years ago," says Mike, "then we had to pull back. We finished seven songs two years ago and we had to take some time to figure out what we wanted to do. And write some more songs. So about four months ago we started up again with a brand new batch of songs to go along with those."I think getting away from them and taking the time to do it, and discussing with Brendan O'Brien who is producing it, having many meetings between ourselves about these things, yet keeping it fresh while we were recording it."And the guitarist believes that taking their time has definitely paid off."I think it's helped. I think it's going to be really cool record and I'm very excited about it. Every artist says that about their new thing but I feel like we've been through a long journey to get there and it was totally worth it."For more on Mike McCready read the full feature on his role in supergroup Mad Season in issue 243 of Total Guitar.

harmless wrote:

theplatypus wrote:I know this is very cynical of me, but I can't help but think that some people are kind of forcing themselves to like this song. I think if you presented this same song with a different singer (say a Bob Mould or a Greg? Graffin) to a bunch of Pearl Jam fans, most of them would go "meh."

Jorge, you of all people should acknowledge that this non-argument is ridiculous. Because if you replaced the guitars on STBC with jazz piano and presented it to PJ fans, most of them would go "Meh". I don't get that removing the vocals ON A PJ SONG proves anything. If I took Ed off most of PJ's catalogue I would like it less.

theplatypus wrote:

Birds in Hell wrote:

theplatypus wrote:That, and I think the whole "any song is instantly better if it's Pearl Jam playing it" is a foolish way to approach music.

If you really like Pearl Jam, I think that's a perfectly valid approach.

(see my longer post on the previous page)

I don't think I can get past the first line of that post. Songwriting and performance will always be the main things I listen for and judge my music by, not unmeasurables and intangibles like "the feel of these 5 specific people playing music together".