Red Mosquito

dimejinky99 wrote:It's weird the piss thing is still the talking point and not his campaign staff coluding with the Russians.

just as planned.

BurtReynolds wrote:

dimejinky99 wrote:It's weird the piss thing is still the talking point and not his campaign staff coluding with the Russians.

just as planned.

Seems that way.

tragabigzanda wrote:

Orpheus wrote:Shaming him for a fetish is dumb, but isn't this more about the rumor that it was intended as some sort of weird revenge against Obama?

No, it's more about the fact that he allegedly compromised global security because they have videos of girls peeing on a bed.

Indeed.

At what point will he actually turn all this around on the Russians saying they fabricated it all and make that the thing?

What the actual fuck

Orpheus wrote:

tragabigzanda wrote:

Orpheus wrote:Shaming him for a fetish is dumb, but isn't this more about the rumor that it was intended as some sort of weird revenge against Obama?

No, it's more about the fact that he allegedly compromised global security because they have videos of girls peeing on a bed.

Indeed.

Or that there is mounting evidence this is totally fake:

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/trump ... gs-n705586

but... but i want it to be true! What about my feelings?

wait this went on for 5 years? What was Russia's plan? To make him run for president and win with one of the most batshit campaigns in human history? If Putin was behind that, then I'm prepared to anoint him king of the world.

Bi_3 wrote:

Orpheus wrote:

tragabigzanda wrote:

Orpheus wrote:Shaming him for a fetish is dumb, but isn't this more about the rumor that it was intended as some sort of weird revenge against Obama?

No, it's more about the fact that he allegedly compromised global security because they have videos of girls peeing on a bed.

Indeed.

Or that there is mounting evidence this is totally fake:

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/trump ... gs-n705586

BuzzFeed is partially owned by the Shinehardt Wig company?

fake or true, it is an embarrassment he deserves for engaging in the spread of similarly baseless lies and insults against others for the last year or more

dishing it out and then having to take it - what a concept

something most politicians are normally aware of

action vs. re-action

you fight dirty, others going to fight dirty back

this guy isn't even in office yet and his list of powerful domestic enemies is a mile long. and there is no need for it to be that long. he just has a self-esteem problem so he burns bridges everywhere

After his tax cut gets passed some in the GOP may wonder if they can get the rest of their agenda passed better without his interference. Trump seems to be making enemies of pharma and healthcare industries, which are powerful lobbies. He also has pissed-off every major auto manufacturer. He has also pissed-on the U.S. intelligence community. Basically, he has two bridges remaining: 1) Financial Industry, and 2) Energy/military industrial complex. He'll probably leave the Banks alone. But the moment he headfakes on military industrial agenda that he is supposed to pass at their instruction, he will probably end up impeached or on an inner tube out to sea.

Pence will follow instructions. Trump probably won't

Simple Torture wrote:

Bi_3 wrote:

Orpheus wrote:

tragabigzanda wrote:

Orpheus wrote:Shaming him for a fetish is dumb, but isn't this more about the rumor that it was intended as some sort of weird revenge against Obama?

No, it's more about the fact that he allegedly compromised global security because they have videos of girls peeing on a bed.

Indeed.

Or that there is mounting evidence this is totally fake:

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/trump ... gs-n705586

BuzzFeed is partially owned by the Shinehardt Wig company?

They did recently receive a nice $200 million paycheck from NBC. Nice to see they spent the money wisely.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/01 ... terrified/

Former MI6 officer Christopher Steele, who produced Donald Trump Russian dossier, 'terrified for his safety' and went to ground before name released

Mr Steele, who spied in Moscow for the Secret Intelligence Service in the 1990s, fled from his home in Surrey after leaving his cat with a neighbour and telling them he would be away “for a few days”.

For months, he had been playing a dangerous game; tipping off journalists about what he said he had discovered from his sources in Russia about Donald Trump’s alleged dealings with the Kremlin, as well as claims that the FSB had hugely compromising information about Mr Trump’s activities during visits to the Communist country.

Mr Steele had been hired by a Washington firm to gather information on Mr Trump’s connections to Russia, funded at first by anti-Trump Republicans and, later, by Democrats. He also shared the information with the FBI.

McParadigm wrote:http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/01/11/former-mi6-officer-produced-donald-trump-russian-dossier-terrified/

Former MI6 officer Christopher Steele, who produced Donald Trump Russian dossier, 'terrified for his safety' and went to ground before name released

Mr Steele, who spied in Moscow for the Secret Intelligence Service in the 1990s, fled from his home in Surrey after leaving his cat with a neighbour and telling them he would be away “for a few days”.

For months, he had been playing a dangerous game; tipping off journalists about what he said he had discovered from his sources in Russia about Donald Trump’s alleged dealings with the Kremlin, as well as claims that the FSB had hugely compromising information about Mr Trump’s activities during visits to the Communist country.

Mr Steele had been hired by a Washington firm to gather information on Mr Trump’s connections to Russia, funded at first by anti-Trump Republicans and, later, by Democrats. He also shared the information with the FBI.

Затем он побежал к SafeHouse глубоко в пулхауз Джордж Клуни

96583UP wrote:

McParadigm wrote:http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/01 ... terrified/

Former MI6 officer Christopher Steele, who produced Donald Trump Russian dossier, 'terrified for his safety' and went to ground before name released

Mr Steele, who spied in Moscow for the Secret Intelligence Service in the 1990s, fled from his home in Surrey after leaving his cat with a neighbour and telling them he would be away “for a few days”.

For months, he had been playing a dangerous game; tipping off journalists about what he said he had discovered from his sources in Russia about Donald Trump’s alleged dealings with the Kremlin, as well as claims that the FSB had hugely compromising information about Mr Trump’s activities during visits to the Communist country.

Mr Steele had been hired by a Washington firm to gather information on Mr Trump’s connections to Russia, funded at first by anti-Trump Republicans and, later, by Democrats. He also shared the information with the FBI.

Затем он побежал к SafeHouse глубоко в пулхауз Джордж Клуни

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38589427

And the former MI6 agent is not the only source for the claim about Russian kompromat on the president-elect. Back in August, a retired spy told me he had been informed of its existence by "the head of an East European intelligence agency".
Later, I used an intermediary to pass some questions to active duty CIA officers dealing with the case file - they would not speak to me directly. I got a message back that there was "more than one tape", "audio and video", on "more than one date", in "more than one place" - in the Ritz-Carlton in Moscow and also in St Petersburg - and that the material was "of a sexual nature".

That guy's gonna get a visit from the polonium fairy.

BurtReynolds wrote:but... but i want it to be true! What about my feelings?

wait this went on for 5 years? What was Russia's plan? To make him run for president and win with one of the most batshit campaigns in human history? If Putin was behind that, then I'm prepared to anoint him king of the world.

I think that part of it, that Russian intelligence would try to find info on Trump, is completely believable. We're talking about an immensely popular figure who floated running for president in 2012 and was the chief advocate of a call for his birth certificate that sucked in a significant portion of the Republican party. We bugged the German chancellor's phone; I think it's awfully optimistic of Putin's government to say they wouldn't try to keep tabs on a prominent American mogul and potential presidential candidate, however much a longshot he may have seemed. I feel like the presentation of the info, and the way it's written, sent up way more of a red flag than the content.

I also think this schism between Trump and the intelligence community is pretty much DOA post-inauguration. Trump is the furthest thing from a privacy advocate, and he doesn't seem to have any problem with the IC's findings besides when they tell him something about Russia that hurts his feelings. A president with an authoritarian streak like Trump's will find a lot to love fairly quickly.

digster wrote:

BurtReynolds wrote:but... but i want it to be true! What about my feelings?

wait this went on for 5 years? What was Russia's plan? To make him run for president and win with one of the most batshit campaigns in human history? If Putin was behind that, then I'm prepared to anoint him king of the world.

I think that part of it, that Russian intelligence would try to find info on Trump, is completely believable. We're talking about an immensely popular figure who floated running for president in 2012 and was the chief advocate of a call for his birth certificate that sucked in a significant portion of the Republican party. We bugged the German chancellor's phone; I think it's awfully optimistic of Putin's government to say they wouldn't try to keep tabs on a prominent American mogul and potential presidential candidate, however much a longshot he may have seemed. I feel like the presentation of the info, and the way it's written, sent up way more of a red flag than the content.

"All good lies start out with a grain of truth"

McParadigm wrote:
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38589427

And the former MI6 agent is not the only source for the claim about Russian kompromat on the president-elect. Back in August, a retired spy told me he had been informed of its existence by "the head of an East European intelligence agency".
Later, I used an intermediary to pass some questions to active duty CIA officers dealing with the case file - they would not speak to me directly. I got a message back that there was "more than one tape", "audio and video", on "more than one date", in "more than one place" - in the Ritz-Carlton in Moscow and also in St Petersburg - and that the material was "of a sexual nature".

To play along here, what benefit would the CIA derive from hiding this? What would be their endgame? I can see a very clear reason why Russia would want this be "news", but I'm not so clear on what would motivate our Intel agencies to cover this up if they believed it to be real.

Well: https://www.amazon.com/Pounded-Handsome ... sian+t-rex