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Re: Dark Matter Reviews

Posted: Mon April 15, 2024 3:59 pm
by oneway23
Ms Harmless wrote:"And the plastic-y, slicked-up sound of his records is more Max Martin than Brendan O’Brien."

has he heard Brendan O'Brien recently?
What were the most recent albums he produced?
Seether?
The Offspring?

Can't imagine either of those being very inspiring, personally.

Re: Dark Matter Reviews

Posted: Mon April 15, 2024 4:04 pm
by Ms Harmless
oneway23 wrote:
Ms Harmless wrote:"And the plastic-y, slicked-up sound of his records is more Max Martin than Brendan O’Brien."

has he heard Brendan O'Brien recently?
What were the most recent albums he produced?
Seether?
The Offspring?

Can't imagine either of those being very inspiring, personally.
not sure, but both Backspacer and LB are much shinier than this

Re: Dark Matter Reviews

Posted: Mon April 15, 2024 4:05 pm
by oneway23
Ms Harmless wrote:
oneway23 wrote:
Ms Harmless wrote:"And the plastic-y, slicked-up sound of his records is more Max Martin than Brendan O’Brien."

has he heard Brendan O'Brien recently?
What were the most recent albums he produced?
Seether?
The Offspring?

Can't imagine either of those being very inspiring, personally.
not sure, but both Backspacer and LB are much shinier than this
REALLY?!? Huh!

I can hold out...I can hold out.
Pearl Jam edging

Re: Dark Matter Reviews

Posted: Mon April 15, 2024 4:08 pm
by Jaeti
oneway23 wrote:
Ms Harmless wrote:
oneway23 wrote:
Ms Harmless wrote:"And the plastic-y, slicked-up sound of his records is more Max Martin than Brendan O’Brien."

has he heard Brendan O'Brien recently?
What were the most recent albums he produced?
Seether?
The Offspring?

Can't imagine either of those being very inspiring, personally.
not sure, but both Backspacer and LB are much shinier than this
REALLY?!? Huh!

I can hold out...I can hold out.
Pearl Jam edging

Re: Dark Matter Reviews

Posted: Mon April 15, 2024 4:54 pm
by VinylGuy
That Uproxx review is pretty cool, and i actually like this moment:

¨Dark Matter isn’t a complete return to form. The reliance on outside writers is kind of alarming — along with Watt’s significant contributions, touring member Josh Klinghoffer also played a major hand in composing the charmingly bouncy parenthood ode “Something Special.” It’s not checked-out or craven like a late-period Aerosmith album, of course, but the extra help does underline how challenging it’s been for Pearl Jam to make Pearl Jam records in the past 15 years¨



Its very interesting because after LB the band was really close i think to not have another album. Im sure there is a story to tell, with all the aborted O Brian sessions and the overall discovery of Gigaton, but i can see DM as a new way to actually function as a unit. Well see how much of this happens in the future or not.

Re: Dark Matter Reviews

Posted: Mon April 15, 2024 10:26 pm
by Xsquilax82
High Praise in Montreal Rocks review: https://montrealrocks.ca/album-review-p ... rk-matter/

Re: Dark Matter Reviews

Posted: Mon April 15, 2024 10:33 pm
by tommy
VinylGuy wrote:That Uproxx review is pretty cool, and i actually like this moment:

¨Dark Matter isn’t a complete return to form. The reliance on outside writers is kind of alarming — along with Watt’s significant contributions, touring member Josh Klinghoffer also played a major hand in composing the charmingly bouncy parenthood ode “Something Special.” It’s not checked-out or craven like a late-period Aerosmith album, of course, but the extra help does underline how challenging it’s been for Pearl Jam to make Pearl Jam records in the past 15 years¨



Its very interesting because after LB the band was really close i think to not have another album. Im sure there is a story to tell, with all the aborted O Brian sessions and the overall discovery of Gigaton, but i can see DM as a new way to actually function as a unit. Well see how much of this happens in the future or not.
Interesting. I hope one of them eventually writes a book about this period.

Re: Dark Matter Reviews

Posted: Mon April 15, 2024 10:58 pm
by Thurman Murman
tommy wrote:
VinylGuy wrote:That Uproxx review is pretty cool, and i actually like this moment:

¨Dark Matter isn’t a complete return to form. The reliance on outside writers is kind of alarming — along with Watt’s significant contributions, touring member Josh Klinghoffer also played a major hand in composing the charmingly bouncy parenthood ode “Something Special.” It’s not checked-out or craven like a late-period Aerosmith album, of course, but the extra help does underline how challenging it’s been for Pearl Jam to make Pearl Jam records in the past 15 years¨



Its very interesting because after LB the band was really close i think to not have another album. Im sure there is a story to tell, with all the aborted O Brian sessions and the overall discovery of Gigaton, but i can see DM as a new way to actually function as a unit. Well see how much of this happens in the future or not.
Interesting. I hope one of them eventually writes a book about this period.
That would be great, but they dont even want to address the drummer situation so i doubt we ever get any clarity there. Maybe we eventually get a "Lost Dogs 2" with a handful of songs from that 2017-2018 timeframe.

Re: Dark Matter Reviews

Posted: Tue April 16, 2024 1:49 am
by liebzz
Lost Dogs 2 is starting to get a lot of ground to cover:

- Essentially the other half of self-titled (Of the Earth, Cold Confession, Let It Ride, Rearranged Furniture, Rearranged Priorities, Only Cloud in the Sky, etc.)

- Backspacer EP

- Lost BOB album (Forthcoming)

- Dark Matter b-sides

Re: Dark Matter Reviews

Posted: Tue April 16, 2024 8:48 am
by Mike
liebzz wrote: - Lost BOB album (Forthcoming)
What is this?

Re: Dark Matter Reviews

Posted: Tue April 16, 2024 8:58 am
by Ms Harmless
Mike wrote:
liebzz wrote: - Lost BOB album (Forthcoming)
What is this?
Can't Deny Me was first advertised as the lead single from a forthcoming album, which they (apparently) scrapped before (apparently) leaving BO'B

Re: Dark Matter Reviews

Posted: Tue April 16, 2024 9:44 am
by Mike
Ahhh, I thought "forthcoming" meant there was some talk about that being released soon as a b-side collection or something

Re: Dark Matter Reviews

Posted: Tue April 16, 2024 10:05 am
by oneway23
Ms Harmless wrote:
Mike wrote:
liebzz wrote: - Lost BOB album (Forthcoming)
What is this?
Can't Deny Me was first advertised as the lead single from a forthcoming album, which they (apparently) scrapped before (apparently) leaving BO'B
:D

The band, upon hearing 'Can't Deny Me' over the studio monitors for initial playback:
"Brendan, this is no longer a fruitful partnership."

Re: Dark Matter Reviews

Posted: Tue April 16, 2024 10:22 am
by lecherouslittlestump
I saw BOB played keys on Quick Escape. Did that song originate from those sessions? I think Retrograde did

Re: Dark Matter Reviews

Posted: Tue April 16, 2024 10:37 am
by oneway23
lecherouslittlestump wrote:I saw BOB played keys on Quick Escape. Did that song originate from those sessions? I think Retrograde did
Yes...I believe those are the two supposedly from an earlier session, but, I'm far too lazy to source that. Just take my word for it until someone with more initiative fills in the blanks.

Re: Dark Matter Reviews

Posted: Tue April 16, 2024 10:44 am
by Birds in Hell
oneway23 wrote:
lecherouslittlestump wrote:I saw BOB played keys on Quick Escape. Did that song originate from those sessions? I think Retrograde did
Yes...I believe those are the two supposedly from an earlier session, but, I'm far too lazy to source that. Just take my word for it until someone with more initiative fills in the blanks.
That's my understanding too.

Re: Dark Matter Reviews

Posted: Tue April 16, 2024 3:23 pm
by joostone
liebzz wrote:Lost Dogs 2 is starting to get a lot of ground to cover:

- Essentially the other half of self-titled (Of the Earth, Cold Confession, Let It Ride, Rearranged Furniture, Rearranged Priorities, Only Cloud in the Sky, etc.)

- Backspacer EP

- Lost BOB album (Forthcoming)

- Dark Matter b-sides
Plus all the songs that were not compiled on Lost Dogs 1 (Angel, Leatherman etc, but also 'Falling Down', 'Eastern Beetles', 'Black Eye' and more).

This Xmas: Lost Dogs 1 reissue on vinyl
2025: Lost Dogs 2
2026: Lost Dogs 3
2027: PJ Andrew Watt album #2

A man can only dream 8-)

Re: Dark Matter Reviews

Posted: Tue April 16, 2024 3:26 pm
by Val
joostone wrote:
liebzz wrote:Lost Dogs 2 is starting to get a lot of ground to cover:

- Essentially the other half of self-titled (Of the Earth, Cold Confession, Let It Ride, Rearranged Furniture, Rearranged Priorities, Only Cloud in the Sky, etc.)

- Backspacer EP

- Lost BOB album (Forthcoming)

- Dark Matter b-sides
Plus all the songs that were not compiled on Lost Dogs 1 (Angel, Leatherman etc, but also 'Falling Down', 'Eastern Beetles', 'Black Eye' and more).
The exclusion of Evil Goat and Out Of My Mind is INEXCUSABLE.

Re: Dark Matter Reviews

Posted: Tue April 16, 2024 4:19 pm
by WaitingForBluey
oneway23 wrote:
Ms Harmless wrote:
Mike wrote:
liebzz wrote: - Lost BOB album (Forthcoming)
What is this?
Can't Deny Me was first advertised as the lead single from a forthcoming album, which they (apparently) scrapped before (apparently) leaving BO'B
:D

The band, upon hearing 'Can't Deny Me' over the studio monitors for initial playback:
"Brendan, this is no longer a fruitful partnership."
Then Brendan responded... "Well, stop writing dogshit songs then. You can put lipstick on a pig but it's still a pig."

Re: Dark Matter Reviews

Posted: Tue April 16, 2024 4:21 pm
by oneway23
bluestate wrote:
oneway23 wrote:
Ms Harmless wrote:
Mike wrote:
liebzz wrote: - Lost BOB album (Forthcoming)
What is this?
Can't Deny Me was first advertised as the lead single from a forthcoming album, which they (apparently) scrapped before (apparently) leaving BO'B
:D

The band, upon hearing 'Can't Deny Me' over the studio monitors for initial playback:
"Brendan, this is no longer a fruitful partnership."
Then Brendan responded... "Well, stop writing dogshit songs then. You can put lipstick on a pig but it's still a pig."
touche! :D