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Re: Pendulum

Posted: Sun October 27, 2013 1:37 pm
by harmless
Kevin Davis wrote:
Mine wrote:i don't agree that this kind of presentation excludes there being more of a song underneath it.
No, I don't agree with that either--I didn't say that, did I? I would cite "Fatal," "Nothing As It Seems," "Strangest Tribe," and "Sleight of Hand," to name just a few, as examples of songs that are both masterfully written on a skeletal "music and lyrics" level but are equally evocative as mood pieces, as vehicles for the band to stake out a certain atmospheric space and play around with the sonic canvas.
harmless wrote:
Personally I think "Of The Girl" and "Pendulum" are both doing some pretty interesting things in the rhythm department, and the way the rhythms segue between sections. So maybe that's 2 things this song is doing well?


Sure--I mean, in pieces, there are many things this song does well. And of course no song is going to be a showcase for everything the band does well, simply because it would be extremely rare for some of those things (like the ferocious rip of "Brain of J" and the desolate drone of "Dead Man," for example) to exist within the scope of the same song. I think I just meant that this song was more of a showcase for sonics, whatever that entails, than for songcraft, and that in most cases the "five star" material--that truly uppermost echelon, that top 5% of their material--brings both of those things to the table in some form.
Yep, I agree. What it mostly does is evoke a mood.

Re: Pendulum

Posted: Sun October 27, 2013 3:49 pm
by Release_Me
5 stars is a rating I give to the songs which I love. There are quite a few Pearl Jam songs (30-40) which get that rating from me and Pendulum is one of them. Within this list of 5 star songs, I have my own rankings. So Pendulum is a 5 star song but is not ranked as high as some of the other 5 star songs owing mainly to the fact that it's too short.

Re: Pendulum

Posted: Sun October 27, 2013 4:43 pm
by Kevin Davis
Release_Me wrote:So Pendulum is a 5 star song but is not ranked as high as some of the other 5 star songs
This is false. If it is a five star song, it has exactly the same rating as the other five star songs--five stars.

Re: Pendulum

Posted: Sun October 27, 2013 4:44 pm
by harmless
Kevin Davis wrote:
Release_Me wrote:So Pendulum is a 5 star song but is not ranked as high as some of the other 5 star songs
This is false. If it is a five star song, it has exactly the same rating as the other five star songs--five stars.
Unless any numbered score is a spectrum.

Re: Pendulum

Posted: Sun October 27, 2013 4:55 pm
by Mine
Kevin Davis wrote:
Release_Me wrote:So Pendulum is a 5 star song but is not ranked as high as some of the other 5 star songs
This is false. If it is a five star song, it has exactly the same rating as the other five star songs--five stars.
Are you trying to say Release_Me is in denial about Pendulum not being a 5* song for him?

Re: Pendulum

Posted: Sun October 27, 2013 7:52 pm
by Release_Me
Kevin Davis wrote:
Release_Me wrote:So Pendulum is a 5 star song but is not ranked as high as some of the other 5 star songs
This is false. If it is a five star song, it has exactly the same rating as the other five star songs--five stars.
5 stars is the rating I give to songs I love. There are many songs I love and I also like to rank them in order. I posted in the 5 star songs thread a while ago. There are 35 songs in my 5 star list, ranked from 1-35. They all have the same rating; 5 stars.

Re: Pendulum

Posted: Mon October 28, 2013 6:21 am
by Lounge Lizard
that's why y'all shoulda switched to the metric system long ago

Re: Pendulum

Posted: Tue October 29, 2013 2:18 am
by warehouse
this might be my favorite song since 'in my tree'. i cant really remember being hit by a pearl jam song like this in a long time.

Re: Pendulum

Posted: Tue October 29, 2013 2:56 am
by VinylGuy
I love this one. I want/need to hear it live.

Re: Pendulum

Posted: Tue October 29, 2013 9:42 am
by stip
harmless wrote:
Kevin Davis wrote:
Release_Me wrote:So Pendulum is a 5 star song but is not ranked as high as some of the other 5 star songs
This is false. If it is a five star song, it has exactly the same rating as the other five star songs--five stars.
Unless any numbered score is a spectrum.

there are only 5 levels of quality every song can have.

Re: Pendulum

Posted: Fri November 01, 2013 1:55 am
by ---
no thread dedicated to this song deserves second page treatment

Re: Pendulum

Posted: Fri November 01, 2013 5:06 am
by Norah
--- wrote:no thread dedicated to this song deserves second page treatment
Did you ever imagine making this post in a Lightning Bolt song thread in the months leading up to its release?

Re: Pendulum

Posted: Thu November 21, 2013 7:34 pm
by Whale and Wasp
Pendulum is among the bands greatest released recordings. A self produced double length album would suit my needs rather well!

Re: Pendulum

Posted: Thu November 21, 2013 7:37 pm
by Birds in Hell
I still find the studio version difficult to enjoy due to the production but the live version from Pittsburgh is top fucking notch. That's how it should've sounded.

Re: Pendulum

Posted: Fri November 22, 2013 12:43 pm
by AndySlash
is stone singing backup vocals on this? i swear i hear his voice at times in the ah ah ahs at the end.

Re: Pendulum

Posted: Sat November 23, 2013 12:12 am
by harmless
Still love this song.

Re: Pendulum

Posted: Sun November 24, 2013 6:33 pm
by numbers
cutuphalfdead wrote:
--- wrote:no thread dedicated to this song deserves second page treatment
Did you ever imagine making this post in a Lightning Bolt song thread in the months leading up to its release?
It really is shocking how good this song is.

Re: Pendulum

Posted: Sun November 24, 2013 6:47 pm
by warehouse
its not only that i still like it, i like it more and more every time i hear it. it might be in my top 25 pj songs ever.

Re: Pendulum

Posted: Wed November 27, 2013 12:51 am
by AndySlash
AndySlash wrote:is stone singing backup vocals on this? i swear i hear his voice at times in the ah ah ahs at the end.
anyone? i ask again because he wasn't singing at the shows i saw this week and that surprised me.

Re: Pendulum

Posted: Wed November 27, 2013 3:09 am
by stip
this is probably the only song on the record that hasn't peaked for me yet.