Red Mosquito

verb_to_trust wrote:What did he do?

The accounts have been corroborated by family members or friends who were present at the time, as well as by correspondence from Adams reviewed by The New York Times.

When Adams began corresponding online with a fan, Ava, in 2013, she was a 14-year-old bass player already forging a career.

But their correspondence about music turned into graphic texting. Eventually, Ava said, they conducted video calls on Skype, where Adams exposed himself during phone sex.

The Times has reviewed extensive communication between the two, including 3,217 text messages they exchanged over a nine-month period when Ava was 15 and 16.

She had been a gifted bassist since the age of 9. By 12, she was road-tripping with her family to Manhattan for gigs with established musicians. At home, however, Ava was isolated, home-schooled because of bullying. At 13, her father died.

“I never see pics of you anymore,” Adams wrote in November 2014, when he had just turned 40 and Ava was newly 16. “You were blowing my mind.” He had pet names for her body parts.

Days later, Adams expressed anxiety: “If people knew they would say I was like R Kelley lol,” he wrote.

Yet within 10 minutes, the conversation again turned explicit. “I just want you to touch your nipple,” he texted, before again asking about her age. “And tell me that your mom is not gonna kill me if she finds out we even text.”

In response to Adams’s repeated pleas that she tell him she was 18 — “You have to convince me,” he wrote — Ava at times said she was. Sometimes he asked to see identification — “in the hottest way that has ever been done Lol.” She never showed him any ID.

Adams, through his lawyer, said that while he “has communications online with various fans and aspiring musicians,” he “does not recall having online communications with anyone related to anything outside of music.” The lawyer added that “if, in fact, this woman was underage, Mr. Adams was unaware.” He pointed to her performances in clubs and provided photos of Ava from that time, saying she looked “approximately 20.”

given2trade wrote:Am I still allowed to listen to Cold Roses? I can give up the rest.

Rangi Guy wrote:I couldn't name you one Ryan Adams song....I'm not even sure if I've heard his music before, but if someone were to have asked me if he was kind of a creep and into underage girls, I would have said 'Totally!' - I'm surprised people are shocked by this

verb_to_trust wrote:

given2trade wrote:Am I still allowed to listen to Cold Roses? I can give up the rest.

I'm going to. Maybe he will have to release Blackhole now to make money.

durdencommatyler wrote:To be clear, I don't think people are surprised. Just disappointed.

durdencommatyler wrote:To be clear, I don't think people are surprised. Just disappointed.

durdencommatyler wrote:

verb_to_trust wrote:

given2trade wrote:Am I still allowed to listen to Cold Roses? I can give up the rest.

I'm going to. Maybe he will have to release Blackhole now to make money.

The stuff I already paid for I'm going to listen to. Because I already have that shit and he has my goddamn money. But I'm not sure that I'll pay for anything new at this point.