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Re: TV: Fargo
Posted: Thu December 28, 2023 6:07 pm
by Bi_3
tragabigzanda wrote:Agreed it’s not likely to be a 1:1 thing. Interesting insight though Joe. Never knew Baum’s book was an allegory for capitalism.
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Marxist Lensing:
https://lib.pstcc.edu/c.php?g=106685&p=7483931
Re: TV: Fargo
Posted: Thu December 28, 2023 8:14 pm
by epilogue
More compelling to me personally than the Oz of it all is the Twin Peaks of it all. This season seems to mirror A LOT of Twin Peaks. And not just the tone, but also visual elements (the cross fades with Tillman imposed especially, but also the way smoke filters from one completely separate scene/location into another) and plot elements (Wink Lyon playing with toys feels like more than just a vague reference to Benjamin Horne). I'd love to hear Hawley talk about that connection.
Further, it's interesting to note that both Hawley and David Lynch use Wizard of Oz imagery/motifs/themes all the time. This season of Fargo is just as full of Oz as Lynch's Wild At Heart (for example). Both hyper violent studies of "Americana" through an Oz filter.
Re: TV: Fargo
Posted: Thu December 28, 2023 8:19 pm
by Ello Sailor
Oh shit, Munch's reaction to the old lady. This is going to be brutal.
Re: TV: Fargo
Posted: Thu December 28, 2023 9:06 pm
by epilogue
We learned from the Godfather and it was reiterated in this last ep... do not under any circumstances buy oranges.
Re: TV: Fargo
Posted: Thu December 28, 2023 9:16 pm
by tragabigzanda
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.
Re: TV: Fargo
Posted: Sat December 30, 2023 2:20 pm
by The Argonaut
Great ep. I'm terrified of what might happen next
Re: TV: Fargo
Posted: Sat December 30, 2023 6:39 pm
by Biff Pocoroba
The Argonaut wrote:Great ep. I'm terrified of what might happen next
I think we all expected the waiting husband to Hamm, great setup to see what happens next.
Re: TV: Fargo
Posted: Sun December 31, 2023 3:33 am
by Bi_3
Ah, it doesn’t say “No” it says “Oz”
Re: TV: Fargo
Posted: Sun December 31, 2023 1:22 pm
by epilogue
It definitely says No. But you can certainly make it say Oz. Just ask the internet!
Re: TV: Fargo
Posted: Sun December 31, 2023 1:52 pm
by Bi_3
epilogue wrote:It definitely says No. But you can certainly make it say Oz. Just ask the internet!
Nah, we watched the first episode again last night with some friends and the use of the Lyon mansion as the Emerald City was pretty on the nose
Re: TV: Fargo
Posted: Sun December 31, 2023 6:08 pm
by epilogue
We've already discussed this.
Re: TV: Fargo
Posted: Thu January 04, 2024 3:15 am
by Biff Pocoroba
Another episode zipped right along and the first character death of note. Only two episodes left and it definitely felt like it was setting up the end game. Lots of Dot/Nadine and Tillman, with Dave Foley and Lamorne Morris getting plenty of screen time too. Barely saw Old Munch but the previews lead us to believe that thread will be addressed next week.
The debate scene was great, a bit of levity in an otherwise, at times, brutal and tense episode.
Re: TV: Fargo
Posted: Thu January 04, 2024 3:18 am
by epilogue
I goddamn love this show
Re: TV: Fargo
Posted: Thu January 04, 2024 6:53 am
by Ello Sailor
Yeah, it's something else.
- Spoiler: show
- RIP Danish. A very uncharacteristically stupid move on his part.
Re: TV: Fargo
Posted: Thu January 04, 2024 10:08 pm
by daft twat
The camera on John Hamm walking for like a minute was incredible. What a fucking actor. If you told me to just walk for a minute while you filmed me, I’d fuck it all up.
Re: TV: Fargo
Posted: Thu January 04, 2024 11:51 pm
by Monkey_Driven
daft twat wrote:The camera on John Hamm walking for like a minute was incredible. What a fucking actor. If you told me to just walk for a minute while you filmed me, I’d fuck it all up.
That song choice on top of it...
Re: TV: Fargo
Posted: Fri January 05, 2024 2:38 am
by wease
Goddamn, what an episode.
Re: TV: Fargo
Posted: Fri January 05, 2024 2:39 am
by wease
We thought
- Spoiler: show
- it was Dot in Gator’s backseat.
Re: TV: Fargo
Posted: Fri January 05, 2024 2:45 am
by Ello Sailor
Well that's... stupid. Lol.
Re: TV: Fargo
Posted: Fri January 05, 2024 4:22 am
by tragabigzanda
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.