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Re: The 47th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Fri February 07, 2025 7:18 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
blueviper wrote:-US dipping out of WHO
-USAID shutting down
-RFK JR will probably be confirmed and who knows what he'll do as Secretary with the nations health concerns and agencies.
Bird flu having fun amongst birds and other animals. Just waiting for its chance to mutate...
This is Covid 2.0, but possibly much worse. And you have the same guy in office as last time.
At least when the next pandemic comes that is deadlier than Covid, we’ll lose all of the “masks don’t work” people
Re: The 47th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Fri February 07, 2025 7:18 pm
by Anders
blueviper wrote:Anders wrote:
I have yet to see a paper straw.
They are everywhere.
Re: The 47th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Fri February 07, 2025 7:21 pm
by Bi_3
E.H. Ruddock wrote:blueviper wrote:-US dipping out of WHO
-USAID shutting down
-RFK JR will probably be confirmed and who knows what he'll do as Secretary with the nations health concerns and agencies.
Bird flu having fun amongst birds and other animals. Just waiting for its chance to mutate...
This is Covid 2.0, but possibly much worse. And you have the same guy in office as last time.
At least when the next pandemic comes that is deadlier than Covid, we’ll lose all of the “masks don’t work” people
wtf dude
Re: The 47th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Fri February 07, 2025 7:22 pm
by BurtReynolds
blueviper wrote:Anders wrote:
I have yet to see a paper straw.
come to austin
Re: The 47th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Fri February 07, 2025 7:23 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
Bi_3 wrote:E.H. Ruddock wrote:blueviper wrote:-US dipping out of WHO
-USAID shutting down
-RFK JR will probably be confirmed and who knows what he'll do as Secretary with the nations health concerns and agencies.
Bird flu having fun amongst birds and other animals. Just waiting for its chance to mutate...
This is Covid 2.0, but possibly much worse. And you have the same guy in office as last time.
At least when the next pandemic comes that is deadlier than Covid, we’ll lose all of the “masks don’t work” people
wtf dude
Am i wrong?
Re: The 47th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Fri February 07, 2025 7:26 pm
by BurtReynolds
blueviper wrote:-US dipping out of WHO
-USAID shutting down
-RFK JR will probably be confirmed and who knows what he'll do as Secretary with the nations health concerns and agencies.

Re: The 47th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Fri February 07, 2025 7:33 pm
by epilogue
blueviper wrote:Anders wrote:
I have yet to see a paper straw.
Yeah, some places in NYC tried them out for a hot minute back in the day, like pre-Covid. I'm sure there are some that still have them? But I haven't seen or used a paper straw in New York, Pennsylvania, Vermont, Kansas, Missouri, Colorado, New Mexico, Kentucky, Indiana, or California in at least 2 years.
Re: The 47th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Fri February 07, 2025 7:36 pm
by epilogue
BurtReynolds wrote:Democrats lecturing on obstructionism is pretty rich, considering Trump's first term.
I suspect that if dems had a 10 seat majority, 11 would magically turn obstructionist overnight. Roughly the same with Republicans, as people like Lisa Murkowski or Susan Collins (or even just McConnell and Johnson) always turn up to thwart their leader's plans. We'll see how the cabinet picks go.
Makes you wonder what the real source of the obstructionism is.
No one is lecturing. It's a legit tactic that both sides employ because... duh. My issue is with those acting like Dems are at fault for Republican's doing it to them. Especially, when it's applauded the other way around.
Re: The 47th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Fri February 07, 2025 7:37 pm
by Bi_3
E.H. Ruddock wrote:Bi_3 wrote:E.H. Ruddock wrote:blueviper wrote:-US dipping out of WHO
-USAID shutting down
-RFK JR will probably be confirmed and who knows what he'll do as Secretary with the nations health concerns and agencies.
Bird flu having fun amongst birds and other animals. Just waiting for its chance to mutate...
This is Covid 2.0, but possibly much worse. And you have the same guy in office as last time.
At least when the next pandemic comes that is deadlier than Covid, we’ll lose all of the “masks don’t work” people
wtf dude
Am i wrong?
That part is!
Re: The 47th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Fri February 07, 2025 7:39 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
Bi_3 wrote:E.H. Ruddock wrote:Bi_3 wrote:E.H. Ruddock wrote:blueviper wrote:-US dipping out of WHO
-USAID shutting down
-RFK JR will probably be confirmed and who knows what he'll do as Secretary with the nations health concerns and agencies.
Bird flu having fun amongst birds and other animals. Just waiting for its chance to mutate...
This is Covid 2.0, but possibly much worse. And you have the same guy in office as last time.
At least when the next pandemic comes that is deadlier than Covid, we’ll lose all of the “masks don’t work” people
wtf dude
Am i wrong?
That part is!
Survival, homie
Re: The 47th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Fri February 07, 2025 8:08 pm
by Peeps
E.H. Ruddock wrote:Bi_3 wrote:E.H. Ruddock wrote:Bi_3 wrote:E.H. Ruddock wrote:blueviper wrote:-US dipping out of WHO
-USAID shutting down
-RFK JR will probably be confirmed and who knows what he'll do as Secretary with the nations health concerns and agencies.
Bird flu having fun amongst birds and other animals. Just waiting for its chance to mutate...
This is Covid 2.0, but possibly much worse. And you have the same guy in office as last time.
At least when the next pandemic comes that is deadlier than Covid, we’ll lose all of the “masks don’t work” people
wtf dude
Am i wrong?
That part is!
Survival, homie
imagine getting your panties knotted up over that being said
Re: The 47th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Fri February 07, 2025 8:28 pm
by spike
E.H. Ruddock wrote:blueviper wrote:-US dipping out of WHO
-USAID shutting down
-RFK JR will probably be confirmed and who knows what he'll do as Secretary with the nations health concerns and agencies.
Bird flu having fun amongst birds and other animals. Just waiting for its chance to mutate...
This is Covid 2.0, but possibly much worse. And you have the same guy in office as last time.
At least when the next pandemic comes that is deadlier than Covid, we’ll lose all of the “masks don’t work” people
remember how verb looked like a bird?
Re: The 47th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Fri February 07, 2025 8:43 pm
by McParadigm
Musk’s DOGE Teen Was Fired By Cybersecurity Firm for Leaking Company Secrets
A spokesperson for Path Network told Bloomberg: “I can confirm that Edward Coristine's brief contract was terminated after the conclusion of an internal investigation into the leaking of proprietary company information that coincided with his tenure.”
People familiar with Coristine’s DOGE work said he would need a security clearance at least at the secret level to access the secure spaces that hold some of the information he and his coworkers are seeking.
Re: The 47th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Fri February 07, 2025 8:57 pm
by Anders
epilogue wrote:blueviper wrote:Anders wrote:
I have yet to see a paper straw.
Yeah, some places in NYC tried them out for a hot minute back in the day, like pre-Covid. I'm sure there are some that still have them? But I haven't seen or used a paper straw in New York, Pennsylvania, Vermont, Kansas, Missouri, Colorado, New Mexico, Kentucky, Indiana, or California in at least 2 years.
That is surprising. Impossible to find a plastic straws here, and a plastic bag costs $1.
Re: The 47th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Fri February 07, 2025 8:58 pm
by epilogue
Yeah plastic bags are definitely rarer now.
Re: The 47th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Fri February 07, 2025 8:59 pm
by BurtReynolds
Speaking of supposed minor wins that are easy to accomplish, when is he getting around to killing daylight savings time? Is that on the schedule this week?
Re: The 47th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Fri February 07, 2025 9:14 pm
by wease
Bi_3 wrote:epilogue wrote:Bi_3 wrote:epilogue wrote:tragabigzanda wrote:epilogue wrote:tragabigzanda wrote:epilogue wrote:tragabigzanda wrote:I guess it really comes down to time/incentive alignment for me. Who actually benefits once their proposed policies take effect?
The GOP pitches tax cuts as a win for the middle class, but the real payoff goes to the ultra-wealthy. Democrats have at least made attempts — expanding the Child Tax Credit, pushing for student debt relief, and investing in infrastructure — but these efforts typically end up being temporary, or significantly watered down by political compromises. If either party was serious about rebuilding a durable middle class, they’d focus on long-term economic mobility: housing affordability, wage growth, and a labor market that rewards skills and work instead of credentials, rather than a mix of short-term relief and corporate giveaways.
I'm very bummed out by Elon's "move fast, break things" approach to the Federal apparatus; but also think the Dems should've caught on by now that the people want change, not measured compromise (which is kind of antithetical to my whole deal, I know; but is a fair criticism of the Ds).
Literally because of Republicans!
One party is serious about all of that. But they haven't had the majority to implement it. You want that shit? VOTE FOR THEM.
First off, I have voted for them — consistently since 1998. I’ve also voted for a handful of Republicans at the state level when I felt it made sense; and the occasional independent and Green candidate way back in my early voting days.
Second, your criticism is way too simplistic. It assumes the only thing blocking real reform is Republican obstruction, when in reality, Democrats have had full control at times and still failed to deliver. Some of that is due to internal divisions, corporate influence, or just a reluctance to go all-in when they actually have leverage.
If they want to be seen as the party of real structural change, they need to stop making big campaign promises and then settling for half-measures. Voters are already ahead of them on this, and they’re getting tired of waiting.
That just isn't true. At least in the last for years. Two people got in the way. And this people claimed to be Democrats but they aren't. One of them even left the party.
Razor thin majorities coupled with special interests with get anything done.
You can't blame the party for that.
I take your point re: Sinema and Manchin's disproportionate sway in the Senate, but it's not like we can blame them for the loss of the popular vote.
Democrats get elected on big promises. They do everything in their power to make good on those promises. They pass sweeping legislation that will help people and strengthen the country. Two senators get in the way of even bigger sweeping action. Dems are forced to take half measures, because something is better than nothing, and because two senators and a Republican obstructionist House prevents the full burnt of promises kept.
Most voters don't follow this stuff. All they see is the half measures, not the reasons for those half measures. The big sweeping legislation that did pass is a slow burn without immediate results that you can show on TV. The vast right wing media ecosystem amplifies misinformation and "Dems in disarray" messaging. Mainstream media in its never changing effort to avoid accusations of bias from the worst faith actors, also blames Democrats and doesn't provide the hard explanations and proper context. But even if they did, they've lost the trust of a majority of the public, so who would listen or care anyway?
Meanwhile prices are high and people believe Dems should be doing more. They don't care why they literally can't. The executive action Biden takes (too little, too late, perhaps) is seen as overreach because a Democrat is doing it. And because Dems don't have the courts, sure enough! that stuff gets largely squashed, again presenting the public with the false perception that Dems just keep making promises on which they can't deliver.
Biden is too old. Kamala is too black and female and tied to Biden. Gaza is a thing. Prices are too high. All the stuff above. Trump promises to lower prices while also throwing red meat to his base in the form of DEI and transphobia and
manufactured problems with easy solutions that make him look good for a news cycle or two.
That is what's to blame for the loss of the popular vote.
Entirely wrong, but can I get the list of these now?
Oh is it? My bad. I'm a pretty stupid, low information voter so what do I know? Sorry, team. I'll just delete the post.

They’re eating the dogs and cats!
Re: The 47th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Fri February 07, 2025 9:25 pm
by epilogue
There's no point, wease.
He'll dismiss whatever you say as wrong. Or he'll move the goalposts.
Re: The 47th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Fri February 07, 2025 9:39 pm
by epilogue
Anders wrote:epilogue wrote:blueviper wrote:Anders wrote:
I have yet to see a paper straw.
Yeah, some places in NYC tried them out for a hot minute back in the day, like pre-Covid. I'm sure there are some that still have them? But I haven't seen or used a paper straw in New York, Pennsylvania, Vermont, Kansas, Missouri, Colorado, New Mexico, Kentucky, Indiana, or California in at least 2 years.
That is surprising. Impossible to find a plastic straws here, and a plastic bag costs $1.
In the irony of all ironies... I'm drinking with a paper straw right now in NYC.
We really are living in a simulation.
Re: The 47th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Fri February 07, 2025 10:10 pm
by Bi_3
epilogue wrote:There's no point, wease.
He'll dismiss whatever you say as wrong. Or he'll move the goalposts.
Dude, you have repeatedly asserted that Trump was able to win in part based on “manufactured problems”. All I am doing is asking what those are. I’m not insulting you as a person or poster, just asking the question because it seems to be a recurring theme