Red Mosquito

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that episode was AMAZING!

Episode 3?

Orpheus wrote:I think it was meant to show the disassociation that happens from seeing all of time ala Dr. Manhattan, not necessarily that he's a weirdo. At least in a worse way than that already suggests.

Also, it's something from her experience. She can trust what he's saying. If he dropped any of that other stuff, she'd have every reason to doubt what he was talking about. We can't look at that scene from our all-knowing, audience perspective.

durdencommatyler wrote:

Orpheus wrote:I think it was meant to show the disassociation that happens from seeing all of time ala Dr. Manhattan, not necessarily that he's a weirdo. At least in a worse way than that already suggests.

Also, it's something from her experience. She can trust what he's saying. If he dropped any of that other stuff, she'd have every reason to doubt what he was talking about. We can't look at that scene from our all-knowing, audience perspective.

That was my read too. It was super creepy and not polite, but she now knows he's the real deal.

Good point, that he needed to say something to show his skill and knowledge.

Anders wrote:Good point, that he needed to say something to show his skill and knowledge.

analogous to Tyrion's letter containing the phrase he said to Jon about dwarves being bastards

Mecca wrote:

Anders wrote:Good point, that he needed to say something to show his skill and knowledge.

analogous to Tyrion's letter containing the phrase he said to Jon about dwarves being bastards

aw huh

Varys is the spy within Dany's camp. GOT has never shied away from heavy foreshadowing and how else did Euron know exactly when to attack? The Casterly Rock ambush is also highly suspect. The biggest clue was Tyrion not knowing about Jon Snow being KOTN. Hot Pie knew, but not Varys? It was clever how they placed the scene of her questioning him. I was initially under the impression that they were trying to emphasize her parallels to her Father. It was also bizarre that he & Dany hadn't interacted until Dragonstone. Varys wasn't exactly happy to have to leave KL either. Season 5 is the hardest one for me to re-watch (Thanks Ramsey, High Sept and Sons Of The Harpy!!) , but I've been picking up on more of the subtleties going back through it.

I have no idea what Vary's endgame actually is. But I love him to pieces. If he's a traitor to Dany, I'll need a damn good reason for it. However, having said that, I don't think he should be trusted. And it would make a lot of sense for him to be "the spy in Dany's camp."

durdencommatyler wrote:I have no idea what Vary's endgame actually is. But I love him to pieces. If he's a traitor to Dany, I'll need a damn good reason for it. However, having said that, I don't think he should be trusted. And it would make a lot of sense for him to be "the spy in Dany's camp."

I think he's trustworthy. Stand him beside little finger and he's an angel I reckon. They seem like the same character in a way but I don't think so at all. Little finger is far more malicious malignant and dangerous. He needs to go. Horribly.

dimejinky99 wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:I have no idea what Vary's endgame actually is. But I love him to pieces. If he's a traitor to Dany, I'll need a damn good reason for it. However, having said that, I don't think he should be trusted. And it would make a lot of sense for him to be "the spy in Dany's camp."

I think he's trustworthy. Stand him beside little finger and he's an angel I reckon. They seem like the same character in a way but I don't think so at all. Little finger is far more malicious malignant and dangerous. He needs to go. Horribly.

Absolutely. And his endgame is clear to me. Varys though... ? That's probably why I trust him much more than Little Finger, actually.

durdencommatyler wrote:

dimejinky99 wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:I have no idea what Vary's endgame actually is. But I love him to pieces. If he's a traitor to Dany, I'll need a damn good reason for it. However, having said that, I don't think he should be trusted. And it would make a lot of sense for him to be "the spy in Dany's camp."

I think he's trustworthy. Stand him beside little finger and he's an angel I reckon. They seem like the same character in a way but I don't think so at all. Little finger is far more malicious malignant and dangerous. He needs to go. Horribly.

Absolutely. And his endgame is clear to me. Varys though... ? That's probably why I trust him much more than Little Finger, actually.

I'm torn about it. I love Varys and really hope they aren't going the spy route with him, but I can't think of anyone else that would betray Dany.

TremorJam wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

dimejinky99 wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:I have no idea what Vary's endgame actually is. But I love him to pieces. If he's a traitor to Dany, I'll need a damn good reason for it. However, having said that, I don't think he should be trusted. And it would make a lot of sense for him to be "the spy in Dany's camp."

I think he's trustworthy. Stand him beside little finger and he's an angel I reckon. They seem like the same character in a way but I don't think so at all. Little finger is far more malicious malignant and dangerous. He needs to go. Horribly.

Absolutely. And his endgame is clear to me. Varys though... ? That's probably why I trust him much more than Little Finger, actually.

I'm torn about it. I love Varys and really hope they aren't going the spy route with him, but I can't think of anyone else that would betray Dany.

UNLESS the Yara is in on it. Is it possible that she betrayed Dany because she's working with Euron? Why else does Euron keep her alive?

durdencommatyler wrote:I have no idea what Vary's endgame actually is. But I love him to pieces. If he's a traitor to Dany, I'll need a damn good reason for it. However, having said that, I don't think he should be trusted. And it would make a lot of sense for him to be "the spy in Dany's camp."

His endgame is to

Spoiler: show

get a blackfyre on the Iron Throne. Debts of affection and all that.

cutuphalfdead wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:I have no idea what Vary's endgame actually is. But I love him to pieces. If he's a traitor to Dany, I'll need a damn good reason for it. However, having said that, I don't think he should be trusted. And it would make a lot of sense for him to be "the spy in Dany's camp."

His endgame is to

Spoiler: show

get a blackfyre on the Iron Throne. Debts of affection and all that.

You think? Well that's disappointing.

Hey Pete, cast Game of Thrones using RMers.

durdencommatyler wrote:

cutuphalfdead wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:I have no idea what Vary's endgame actually is. But I love him to pieces. If he's a traitor to Dany, I'll need a damn good reason for it. However, having said that, I don't think he should be trusted. And it would make a lot of sense for him to be "the spy in Dany's camp."

His endgame is to

Spoiler: show

get a blackfyre on the Iron Throne. Debts of affection and all that.

You think? Well that's disappointing.

Oh wait this is the show thread. Nevermind.

durdencommatyler wrote:Hey Pete, cast Game of Thrones using RMers.

I'm gonna need some time.

cutuphalfdead wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

cutuphalfdead wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:I have no idea what Vary's endgame actually is. But I love him to pieces. If he's a traitor to Dany, I'll need a damn good reason for it. However, having said that, I don't think he should be trusted. And it would make a lot of sense for him to be "the spy in Dany's camp."

His endgame is to

Spoiler: show

get a blackfyre on the Iron Throne. Debts of affection and all that.

You think? Well that's disappointing.

Oh wait this is the show thread. Nevermind.

I have a question for you in the book thread.

durdencommatyler wrote:

cutuphalfdead wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

cutuphalfdead wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:I have no idea what Vary's endgame actually is. But I love him to pieces. If he's a traitor to Dany, I'll need a damn good reason for it. However, having said that, I don't think he should be trusted. And it would make a lot of sense for him to be "the spy in Dany's camp."

His endgame is to

Spoiler: show

get a blackfyre on the Iron Throne. Debts of affection and all that.

You think? Well that's disappointing.

Oh wait this is the show thread. Nevermind.

I have a question for you in the book thread.

I'll see you there.

I started the books!