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Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?

Posted: Mon May 30, 2022 1:07 am
by verb_to_trust
macphisto wrote:
Dev wrote:All Americans should universally support the ban of automatic assault weapons.
Automatic weapons have been effectively banned since 1986. Any other bright ideas from America’s Hat?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firearm_O ... ection_Act

I think the Canucks mean all guns that go pew pew pew pew pew pew instead of ones that go pew.

Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?

Posted: Mon May 30, 2022 1:11 am
by macphisto
verb_to_trust wrote:
macphisto wrote:
Dev wrote:All Americans should universally support the ban of automatic assault weapons.
Automatic weapons have been effectively banned since 1986. Any other bright ideas from America’s Hat?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firearm_O ... ection_Act

I think the Canucks mean all guns that go pew pew pew pew pew pew instead of ones that go pew.
It would be refreshing if people had at least half a fucking clue before wading into the debate.

Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?

Posted: Mon May 30, 2022 1:44 am
by elliseamos
Yes, the new semi-autos are nothing like the 1986 autos.

*eye roll*

Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?

Posted: Mon May 30, 2022 1:46 am
by spike
verb_to_trust wrote:
Norris wrote:
verb_to_trust wrote:The point is that a cucked island of 27 million people surrounded by the ocean has inherent advantages when banning weapons when compared to us.
did you graduate high school?
Yeah. Wish I would have ran cross country, probably would have been pretty good at it.
So you could’ve gone to college?

Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?

Posted: Mon May 30, 2022 1:49 am
by macphisto
elliseamos wrote:Yes, the new semi-autos are nothing like the 1986 autos.

*eye roll*
The AR-15 was designed in 1956.
macphisto wrote:It would be refreshing if people had at least half a fucking clue before wading into the debate.

Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?

Posted: Mon May 30, 2022 2:09 am
by spike
macphisto wrote:
elliseamos wrote:Yes, the new semi-autos are nothing like the 1986 autos.

*eye roll*
The AR-15 was designed in 1956.
macphisto wrote:It would be refreshing if people had at least half a fucking clue before wading into the debate.
Have you answered ellis’s question yet?

Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?

Posted: Mon May 30, 2022 2:20 am
by Norah
people who jerk off to soldier of fortune magazine love to "well actually" how every day people talk about guns so as to avoid the actual issue at hand

Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?

Posted: Mon May 30, 2022 2:23 am
by verb_to_trust
I have no idea what soldier of fortune magazine is

Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?

Posted: Mon May 30, 2022 2:27 am
by Norah
well actually, i don't know what soldier of fortune magazine is

Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?

Posted: Mon May 30, 2022 2:45 am
by macphisto
spike wrote:
macphisto wrote:
elliseamos wrote:Yes, the new semi-autos are nothing like the 1986 autos.

*eye roll*
The AR-15 was designed in 1956.
macphisto wrote:It would be refreshing if people had at least half a fucking clue before wading into the debate.
Have you answered ellis’s question yet?
It’s cute that he/you think I owe him something. Burt covered it quite well, and I echo his sentiments.

Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?

Posted: Mon May 30, 2022 3:07 am
by spike
You owed it to yourself, bootlicker.

Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?

Posted: Mon May 30, 2022 3:07 am
by McParadigm
macphisto wrote:
Dev wrote:All Americans should universally support the ban of automatic assault weapons.
Automatic weapons have been effectively banned since 1986. Any other bright ideas from America’s Hat?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firearm_O ... ection_Act
Ahh yes, legislation that the NRA advocated for and police unions opposed because it rolled back many of the restrictions passed in the aftermath of JFK’s assassination and explicitly forbade the government from creating a national registry of gun ownership.

Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?

Posted: Mon May 30, 2022 3:10 am
by macphisto
As debate for FOPA was in its final stages in the House before moving on to the Senate, Rep. William J. Hughes (D-N.J.) proposed several amendments including House Amendment 777 to H.R. 4332, which modified the act to ban the civilian ownership of new machine guns

Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?

Posted: Mon May 30, 2022 3:26 am
by McParadigm
macphisto wrote:
As debate for FOPA was in its final stages in the House before moving on to the Senate, Rep. William J. Hughes (D-N.J.) proposed several amendments including House Amendment 777 to H.R. 4332, which modified the act to ban the civilian ownership of new machine guns
I appreciate the absolute void of argument you display by using Dev’s misuse of the word automatic to pretend to think his concern was machine guns, and not the modern assault weapon that was just used to murder children.

Mostly because you have just reminded us that a ban on the production of fully automatic weapons for civilian use happened and succeeded. The number of privately owned fully automatic machine guns in the US plummeted in the decades after the law passed. Today, they can cost tens of thousands of dollars to acquire and most are in the hands of dedicated, safe hobbyists.

Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?

Posted: Mon May 30, 2022 3:32 am
by McParadigm
Not unlike how there was an assault weapons ban for a time, and it was also successful in making a difference

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Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?

Posted: Mon May 30, 2022 5:06 am
by knee tunes
verb_to_trust wrote:
macphisto wrote:
Dev wrote:All Americans should universally support the ban of automatic assault weapons.
Automatic weapons have been effectively banned since 1986. Any other bright ideas from America’s Hat?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firearm_O ... ection_Act

I think the Canucks mean all guns that go pew pew pew pew pew pew instead of ones that go pew.
So what is the proper terminology to describe a gun that goes pew pew pew pew vs pew, please?

Assault weapon?

Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?

Posted: Mon May 30, 2022 5:08 am
by knee tunes
knee tunes wrote:
verb_to_trust wrote:
macphisto wrote:
Dev wrote:All Americans should universally support the ban of automatic assault weapons.
Automatic weapons have been effectively banned since 1986. Any other bright ideas from America’s Hat?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firearm_O ... ection_Act

I think the Canucks mean all guns that go pew pew pew pew pew pew instead of ones that go pew.
So what is the proper terminology to describe a gun that goes pew pew pew pew vs pew, please?

Assault weapon?

Yes

Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?

Posted: Mon May 30, 2022 5:35 am
by verb_to_trust
knee tunes wrote:
knee tunes wrote:
verb_to_trust wrote:
macphisto wrote:
Dev wrote:All Americans should universally support the ban of automatic assault weapons.
Automatic weapons have been effectively banned since 1986. Any other bright ideas from America’s Hat?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firearm_O ... ection_Act

I think the Canucks mean all guns that go pew pew pew pew pew pew instead of ones that go pew.
So what is the proper terminology to describe a gun that goes pew pew pew pew vs pew, please?

Assault weapon?

Yes
Single pew would be like a pistol or a shotgun

Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?

Posted: Mon May 30, 2022 12:17 pm
by Bi_3
McParadigm wrote:
macphisto wrote:
As debate for FOPA was in its final stages in the House before moving on to the Senate, Rep. William J. Hughes (D-N.J.) proposed several amendments including House Amendment 777 to H.R. 4332, which modified the act to ban the civilian ownership of new machine guns
I appreciate the absolute void of argument you display by using Dev’s misuse of the word automatic to pretend to think his concern was machine guns, and not the modern assault weapon that was just used to murder children.

Mostly because you have just reminded us that a ban on the production of fully automatic weapons for civilian use happened and succeeded. The number of privately owned fully automatic machine guns in the US plummeted in the decades after the law passed. Today, they can cost tens of thousands of dollars to acquire and most are in the hands of dedicated, safe hobbyists.
Not to defend Mac, this performance is embarrassing and he should have called it a while ago, but that is the same frustration many moderate/right people have when overly academic definitions of terms like "Socialism", "Fascism", and "Critical Race Theory" are used to dismiss criticisms of those ideas. The ridiculous argument that "your position is wrong because those are not automatic weapons" isn't meaningfully different from "your position is wrong because that's not real socialism".

Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?

Posted: Mon May 30, 2022 12:36 pm
by elliseamos
Mac, you're pretty useless in here. Focusing on semantics isn't debating or supporting your views. Claiming we should be more informed is inconsequential to the points many have made.

You've yet to say anything in reply to how these things prevent tyranny. You're #1 reason for owning them.

Thanking Burt for his hypothetical is not a response. And his hypothetical admits that AR owners as revolutionaries would merely frustrate the gov. not topple it.