Red Mosquito

tree_ wrote:I just wonder if people actually like Ed's voice as it is now, or if it's at least mostly because of their history loving the band, their investments and memories that have clouded their judgment. I wonder how many of you who claim to love Ed's voice in this new song, if it were the first time you were hearing this singer's voice, if you'd feel the same about it. I also wonder if I'm missing something. Maybe there is something in my brain that reacts to a frequency other people aren't hearing or something.

E.H. Ruddock wrote:

Ms Harmless wrote:

oneway23 wrote:

E.H. Ruddock wrote:So this far in to a band's career, and no one can be critical of any of it? You like every single song? So this thread should just be a jizz fest about the song? That seems more like the Pit. I like this song, but I also like hearing why others may not like it. I did like it in 06, but didn't in 13, but do in 24. But I'm not going to like ALL of the songs, does that make me a bad fan? Sorry, but saying one is wasting keyboard miles or brain space just because it may not be their "In My Tree" (awful song btw), is a bad take.

Must you love every song? Certainly not. Is that really what you gleaned from my post?

All opinions welcome, all insights appreciated...Fantastic.
Post after post of the same? Not so much...

yeah

literally nobody is doing what you're saying they're doing, Ruddock; we all hoped that we wouldn't be disappointed, and most of us are unpacking why we aren't disappointed; if that sounds like cult mentality to you, you need to go out and "touch grass", as the kiddos say now

I'm not the one that said cult mentality! It was tree! or someone! I'm just defending people wanting to come here and say they don't like the song. Which I love by the way! Jeez. Tough crowd.

Strat wrote:Everything on lightning bolt, and to an extent Gigaton, felt punched in. Each member coming in at their scheduled time to record their part.

This song feels and sounds like a band all playing off eachother live. Compressed and mastered to death or not....

E.H. Ruddock wrote:

Strat wrote:Everything on lightning bolt, and to an extent Gigaton, felt punched in. Each member coming in at their scheduled time to record their part.

This song feels and sounds like a band all playing off eachother live. Compressed and mastered to death or not....

r u still mad at me

tree_ wrote:I just wonder if people actually like Ed's voice as it is now, or if it's at least mostly because of their history loving the band, their investments and memories that have clouded their judgment. I wonder how many of you who claim to love Ed's voice in this new song, if it were the first time you were hearing this singer's voice, if you'd feel the same about it. I also wonder if I'm missing something. Maybe there is something in my brain that reacts to a frequency other people aren't hearing or something.

E.H. Ruddock wrote: I'm not the one that said cult mentality! It was tree! or someone! I'm just defending people wanting to come here and say they don't like the song. Which I love by the way! Jeez. Tough crowd.

Leatherhead wrote:

tree_ wrote:I just wonder if people actually like Ed's voice as it is now, or if it's at least mostly because of their history loving the band, their investments and memories that have clouded their judgment. I wonder how many of you who claim to love Ed's voice in this new song, if it were the first time you were hearing this singer's voice, if you'd feel the same about it. I also wonder if I'm missing something. Maybe there is something in my brain that reacts to a frequency other people aren't hearing or something.

Sounds to me like you have some kind of problem with Eddie that's not actually related to how he sounds.

stip wrote:

tree_ wrote:I just wonder if people actually like Ed's voice as it is now, or if it's at least mostly because of their history loving the band, their investments and memories that have clouded their judgment. I wonder how many of you who claim to love Ed's voice in this new song, if it were the first time you were hearing this singer's voice, if you'd feel the same about it. I also wonder if I'm missing something. Maybe there is something in my brain that reacts to a frequency other people aren't hearing or something.

That's an impossible hypothetical question to answer. I'll use Michael Stipe as an example. No Time For Love Like Now is a solo song he wrote a few years ago. Would I fall in love because of REM because of that song? I can't say. But there are things happening in it, even though Stipe is not at the height of his powers, that make my heart swell. Notes he hits, or almost hits, that trigger pleasure centers in my brain. And that's not simply because I like Michael Stipe. He is actively doing the work, and I haven't liked the rest of his limited solo output so it's not automatic. The love is genuine. But it's informed by history


And I think Eddie sounds great on this.

tragabigzanda wrote:

Strat wrote:Everything on lightning bolt, and to an extent Gigaton, felt punched in. Each member coming in at their scheduled time to record their part.

This song feels and sounds like a band all playing off eachother live. Compressed and mastered to death or not....

I agree the interplay is there to hear, but for me it's internalized as an intellectual construct more than a feeling, if that makes sense.

Like, I can listen to the song and say "Oh neat I can hear how their melodic/rhythmic ideas are playing off each other." That's completely different from being able to say "Wow I can actually hear how the dynamics of their playing are in sync."

spike wrote:fuckin hell, someone make a separate thread to discuss the production values specifically. i can't take it anymore.

tragabigzanda wrote:I agree with jorge, talking about music -- and I'll add that talking about the technical production aspects of music -- is super fun.

I don't want every artist to sound like an Albini project. I love records by Boards of Canada, Carly Rae Jepsen, Haim, Kendrick Lamar, Daft Punk...

But when a band that built its fanbase on the idiosyncratic musical connection of their personalities, and un-fussed production, to create music that felt immediate and raw, I think it's warranted and downright healthy to say "Why does suck?", and then try to pinpoint why exactly it sucks.

Strat wrote:Guys, you're all fine. I think we're all just trying to tell tree to shut the fuck up. Which is what ends up happening in most threads he posts in across the board.

Jorge wrote:Is anyone really harping against this song so hard? I've only read a couple pages of this thread but there seem to be more posts lamenting negative opinions than actual negative opinions

tree_ wrote:I just wonder if people actually like Ed's voice as it is now, or if it's at least mostly because of their history loving the band, their investments and memories that have clouded their judgment. I wonder how many of you who claim to love Ed's voice in this new song, if it were the first time you were hearing this singer's voice, if you'd feel the same about it.

scrub12 wrote:

Strat wrote:Guys, you're all fine. I think we're all just trying to tell tree to shut the fuck up. Which is what ends up happening in most threads he posts in across the board.