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Re: Running

Posted: Fri March 22, 2024 12:39 am
by Leatherhead
stip wrote:Running is also better than Evacuation AND God's Dice. But probably not the two of them combined.
As much as I'm loving this song, I just can't get behind this.

Re: Running

Posted: Fri March 22, 2024 12:39 am
by Ms Harmless
DeeDee wrote:
Ms Harmless wrote:
SJM wrote:
Noaheb wrote:
DeeDee wrote:
Leatherhead wrote:
DeeDee wrote:
Homeboyd wrote:This song is not embarrassing…the hyperbole from the song haters is strong with this one. I can see not liking or even hating this tune but it’s nowhere near the level of Ole or Can’t Deny Me…
It's really close, but those two were too bad to be true.

This is Supersonic 15 years later, but without the surprise element and that fresh feeling.
Ole is better than Supersonic. Running is better than Ole.
Running and any song is better than Supersonic .

Running is better than Olé.

Can't deny me rocks so long as you dont hear the lyrics.
The fact we’re taking about Ole, Can’t Deny Me, and Supersonic here on the day PJ released a new single says it all.
what does it say apart from they're all punky?
Punky and subpar.
you don't like this song, so you're comparing it with other songs you don't like

that's all it means

Re: Running

Posted: Fri March 22, 2024 12:40 am
by Homeboyd
I don’t know who said it (probably Stip), but this song probably works better as an album palette cleanser after two longer mid-tempo songs than it does as a single. But it wouldn’t be Pearl Jam without some baffling decisions.

Re: Running

Posted: Fri March 22, 2024 12:45 am
by Jorge
Strat wrote:
stip wrote:Running is also better than Evacuation AND God's Dice. But probably not the two of them combined.
I'm going to murder you
Lol

Re: Running

Posted: Fri March 22, 2024 12:45 am
by coptheriotact
Strat wrote:
stip wrote:Running is also better than Evacuation AND God's Dice. But probably not the two of them combined.
I'm going to murder you
hes evil

Re: Running

Posted: Fri March 22, 2024 12:45 am
by Sgt. Crackpot
Ehhhh. It's ok

Re: Running

Posted: Fri March 22, 2024 12:45 am
by Ms Harmless
Jorge wrote:
Strat wrote:
stip wrote:Running is also better than Evacuation AND God's Dice. But probably not the two of them combined.
I'm going to murder you
Lol

Re: Running

Posted: Fri March 22, 2024 12:48 am
by Jaeti
Strat wrote:
stip wrote:Running is also better than Evacuation AND God's Dice. But probably not the two of them combined.
I'm going to murder you
Mods?

Re: Running

Posted: Fri March 22, 2024 12:49 am
by stip
Jaeti wrote:
Strat wrote:
stip wrote:Running is also better than Evacuation AND God's Dice. But probably not the two of them combined.
I'm going to murder you
Mods?
To be fair, I probably deserve it

Re: Running

Posted: Fri March 22, 2024 12:53 am
by DeeDee
Ms Harmless wrote:
DeeDee wrote:
Ms Harmless wrote:
SJM wrote:
Noaheb wrote:
DeeDee wrote:
Leatherhead wrote:
DeeDee wrote:
Homeboyd wrote:This song is not embarrassing…the hyperbole from the song haters is strong with this one. I can see not liking or even hating this tune but it’s nowhere near the level of Ole or Can’t Deny Me…
It's really close, but those two were too bad to be true.

This is Supersonic 15 years later, but without the surprise element and that fresh feeling.
Ole is better than Supersonic. Running is better than Ole.
Running and any song is better than Supersonic .

Running is better than Olé.

Can't deny me rocks so long as you dont hear the lyrics.
The fact we’re taking about Ole, Can’t Deny Me, and Supersonic here on the day PJ released a new single says it all.
what does it say apart from they're all punky?
Punky and subpar.
you don't like this song, so you're comparing it with other songs you don't like

that's all it means
It means they're not good writting and playing that kind of songs.

They've never been, never will.

Re: Running

Posted: Fri March 22, 2024 12:57 am
by Fattie_Vedder
Strat wrote:
stip wrote:Running is also better than Evacuation AND God's Dice. But probably not the two of them combined.
I'm going to murder you
That escalated quickly.

Re: Running

Posted: Fri March 22, 2024 12:57 am
by Homeboyd
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It means they're not good writting and playing that kind of songs.

They've never been, never will.[/quote]

Hmmm, this is true, they do typically suck at these types of songs. But I still like Running and certainly more than the list it’s being compared to.

Re: Running

Posted: Fri March 22, 2024 12:58 am
by liebzz
Homeboyd wrote:I don’t know who said it (probably Stip), but this song probably works better as an album palette cleanser after two longer mid-tempo songs than it does as a single. But it wouldn’t be Pearl Jam without some baffling decisions.
A single decision like Spin the Black Circle, Who You Are, Nothing As It Seems, etc.? I like all those songs but singles they are not. I also liked Running though I need quite a few listens for it to seem organized in my head.

Re: Running

Posted: Fri March 22, 2024 1:01 am
by stip
Things I like and or love about Running before I go to bed.

-The bass and drums at the start. A real sausage of a beat.

-leading up to the first verse there's this really cool guitar stutter underneath the main punk line that I just picked up on now (headphones listen) - you can examples at 11 and 13

-I like the group shouting going into the chorus. They don't really have anything else like that I can think of offhand.

-I like the vocal melody Eddie has during the Tunnel/funnel sections

- I really like the 'cuz we left the fucking water running' moment

- and the guitar transition out of it, which is like what I was flagging earlier but more forward in the mix. It's actually more prevalent going into verse 2

-there's a cool grove to the rhythm guitar coming out of the first chorus as well.

-Really the inspirational grind of the bridge - the music especially. The 'reprieve not looking likely' is a good transition into the solo.

It's not Mike's best solo, but a Mike solo is almost always welcome news and it's got a playful swing to it, and there is a fun little taunting section at the end of it

Great Good vs Evil energy at the end. Don't know what the hell Ed is saying.

Good abrupt stop. I like how both this and dark matter don't so much end as they halt.

Re: Running

Posted: Fri March 22, 2024 1:02 am
by stip
liebzz wrote:
Homeboyd wrote:I don’t know who said it (probably Stip), but this song probably works better as an album palette cleanser after two longer mid-tempo songs than it does as a single. But it wouldn’t be Pearl Jam without some baffling decisions.
A single decision like Spin the Black Circle, Who You Are, Nothing As It Seems, etc.? I like all those songs but singles they are not. I also liked Running though I need quite a few listens for it to seem organized in my head.
organized is a good word to describe it, Liebzz

Re: Running

Posted: Fri March 22, 2024 1:02 am
by Ms Harmless
at the end of the day, they're going to keep making songs they enjoy making, even if there are other bands doing it better

I'm not sure who here remembers but they were always that kind of band

Re: Running

Posted: Fri March 22, 2024 1:04 am
by tragabigzanda
pearl jam sucks now

Re: Running

Posted: Fri March 22, 2024 1:06 am
by Ms Harmless
surely we should be calling them gang gang vocals in the TikTok age

Re: Running

Posted: Fri March 22, 2024 1:06 am
by Strat
tragabigzanda wrote:
stip wrote:Things I like and or love about Running before I go to bed.

-The bass and drums at the start. A real sausage of a beat.

-leading up to the first verse there's this really cool guitar stutter underneath the main punk line that I just picked up on now (headphones listen) - you can examples at 11 and 13

-I like the group shouting going into the chorus. They don't really have anything else like that I can think of offhand.

-I like the vocal melody Eddie has during the Tunnel/funnel sections

- I really like the 'cuz we left the fucking water running' moment

- and the guitar transition out of it, which is like what I was flagging earlier but more forward in the mix. It's actually more prevalent going into verse 2

-there's a cool grove to the rhythm guitar coming out of the first chorus as well.

-Really the inspirational grind of the bridge - the music especially. The 'reprieve not looking likely' is a good transition into the solo.

It's not Mike's best solo, but a Mike solo is almost always welcome news and it's got a playful swing to it, and there is a fun little taunting section at the end of it

Great Good vs Evil energy at the end. Don't know what the hell Ed is saying.

Good abrupt stop. I like how both this and dark matter don't so much end as they halt.
“Group shouting” are called “gang vocals” in the studio world, and they did it on SBWM — “I ask forgiveNESS,” etc
well NOW you're just being a know it all!

Re: Running

Posted: Fri March 22, 2024 1:08 am
by tragabigzanda
pearl jam sucks now