Red Mosquito

McParadigm wrote:How about this: everyone needs to masturbate more

Thejambi wrote:

McParadigm wrote:How about this: everyone needs to masturbate more

theplatypus wrote:

stupidmop wrote:Jesus jimmy fallon is enthusiastic about everything. I LOVE TRAINS.

I dig the enthusiasm but it gets to be a little grating. He's had Elvis Costello on a few times (which resulted in the new Roots/Costello album) and the interview segments are awful 'cause he's just stammering and tripping over himself talking about how much of a fan he is. Just relax, guy.

Release_Me wrote:[
In comparison to which other songs in the catalogue, though? I can sure think of a ton of songs (mostly ballads) which are easier than Sirens in their catalogue. My point was in response to posts which were saying 'Man he's really struggling with Sirens live. He shouldn't write songs which are outside his range. He can't sing high anymore'. So obviously, I have focused on dispelling the myth that this song is challenging from that perspective, i.e. singing the higher parts. The fact that structurally the song is not as simple as some others is something I have not argued for or against. Now that you have mentioned it, despite the structure, it is still not vocally as challenging overall as some of the other LB songs. Melodically, there is a lot going on but it's not a song that a professional singer like Ed will struggle to sing as long as he remembers the parts and isn't hindered in some way (which Ed obviously was).

He rarely gets live performances as good as studio these days regardless of the song's difficulty, but there are certainly songs he 'struggles' to sing live and that tax his voice and there are those that don't. This is one which doesn't tax him too much. He might flub it at certain parts because he's lazy or because he's too tired to execute properly, or because he's too busy bobbing his head, playing guitar or gesturing to the crowd, but then he'd do that to many other songs too. Sirens is not special in that regard. I can't imagine him trying to sing MYM, My Father's Son, Getaway, Lightning Bolt or Infallible in the shape he was in. If he tried Infallible, I would cover my ears or I might even 'cringe'. The Fallon performance was bad because he was struggling with his voice. Tone is not something you have control over, much. If you sound hoarse, you sound hoarse. The verses have him not doing much, just singing normally. He sounds off there because his voice is shot. That was my point all along. When you're hoarse, you might actually sound a bit better if you try to belt. That's why the chorus may sound a bit better, if more strained, than the intro verse.

Again, I'm not arguing Sirens is not a difficult song in an absolute sense. It's just not that difficult compared to some of the others on the album. And if we have to discuss Ed writing songs which are outside his 'current capabilities', Sirens would be a bit down the list for me.

cutuphalfdead wrote:

theplatypus wrote:

stupidmop wrote:Jesus jimmy fallon is enthusiastic about everything. I LOVE TRAINS.

I dig the enthusiasm but it gets to be a little grating. He's had Elvis Costello on a few times (which resulted in the new Roots/Costello album) and the interview segments are awful 'cause he's just stammering and tripping over himself talking about how much of a fan he is. Just relax, guy.

http://www.hulu.com/watch/4186

iceagecoming wrote:I thought this was fine. It's a shame that it's the weakest rendition they've done of it since the tour started though.

Ed's vocal hiccups were forgiveable - they didn't ruin anything for me;Mike's harmonies were the worst part of this performance.

stip wrote:

iceagecoming wrote:I thought this was fine. It's a shame that it's the weakest rendition they've done of it since the tour started though.

Ed's vocal hiccups were forgiveable - they didn't ruin anything for me;Mike's harmonies were the worst part of this performance.

yeah, i pretty much agree. It was not a stellar performance, but it wasn't a trainwreck.

mastaflatch wrote:

stip wrote:

iceagecoming wrote:I thought this was fine. It's a shame that it's the weakest rendition they've done of it since the tour started though.

Ed's vocal hiccups were forgiveable - they didn't ruin anything for me;Mike's harmonies were the worst part of this performance.

yeah, i pretty much agree. It was not a stellar performance, but it wasn't a trainwreck.

sorry if it's been been brought up before but why wasn't Matt doing the backing vocals instead? who does them on regular shows? i mean, Matt even sang them on the album.

BurtReynolds wrote:Please tell me he's getting a divorce.

harmless wrote:

BurtReynolds wrote:Please tell me he's getting a divorce.

The next album is sure to be a return to form if he is!

stupidmop wrote:

spike wrote:looks like ed will be in the interview chair for a bit tomorrow night

That's gonna be weird/awkward as hell. Has ed ever done a tv interview before?

spike wrote:

stupidmop wrote:

spike wrote:looks like ed will be in the interview chair for a bit tomorrow night

That's gonna be weird/awkward as hell. Has ed ever done a tv interview before?

in the early day, and yeah, he was weird and uncomfortable. i think he's grown up a lot though.

doug rr wrote:

spike wrote:

stupidmop wrote:

spike wrote:looks like ed will be in the interview chair for a bit tomorrow night

That's gonna be weird/awkward as hell. Has ed ever done a tv interview before?

in the early day, and yeah, he was weird and uncomfortable. i think he's grown up a lot though.

what would Ed be like if he was over 5 ft 6?