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Re: The Green Bay Packers
Posted: Sun January 11, 2015 9:03 pm
by Kaius
I disagree with that call but whatever. I thought once his elbow hit the ground he's down by contact and the ground can't cause a fumble?
Re: The Green Bay Packers
Posted: Sun January 11, 2015 9:04 pm
by surfndestroy
Green Habit wrote:Kaius wrote:What a catch.
Calvin Johnson rule.
Horrible call. He had both feet down after the catch and well before he hit the ground.
Re: The Green Bay Packers
Posted: Sun January 11, 2015 9:04 pm
by Green Habit
Davante Adams is making one hell of a statement today.
Re: The Green Bay Packers
Posted: Sun January 11, 2015 9:05 pm
by spike
hahaha i've NEVER seen mccarthy win a challenge. w00t!
Re: The Green Bay Packers
Posted: Sun January 11, 2015 9:06 pm
by Green Habit
surfndestroy wrote:Green Habit wrote:Kaius wrote:What a catch.
Calvin Johnson rule.
Horrible call. He had both feet down after the catch and well before he hit the ground.
I don't particularly like the rule myself but if you took away Megatron's TD that got the rule named after him you have to take that one away as well.
Re: The Green Bay Packers
Posted: Sun January 11, 2015 9:08 pm
by @SkitchP
Green Habit wrote:surfndestroy wrote:Green Habit wrote:Kaius wrote:What a catch.
Calvin Johnson rule.
Horrible call. He had both feet down after the catch and well before he hit the ground.
I don't particularly like the rule myself but if you took away Megatron's TD that got the rule named after him you have to take that one away as well.
I actually disagree here (and have a million reasons to be biased).. I think Dez made a clear football move in his stretching for the pylon.
Re: The Green Bay Packers
Posted: Sun January 11, 2015 9:08 pm
by surfndestroy
Green Habit wrote:surfndestroy wrote:Green Habit wrote:Kaius wrote:What a catch.
Calvin Johnson rule.
Horrible call. He had both feet down after the catch and well before he hit the ground.
I don't particularly like the rule myself but if you took away Megatron's TD that got the rule named after him you have to take that one away as well.
It's just a bad call. That exact same catch with him then landing out out of bounds would have been good. It would have been ruled two feet down with ball in possession while in bounds.
Re: The Green Bay Packers
Posted: Sun January 11, 2015 9:11 pm
by Kaius
No doubt that should be a catch. He caught the ball, 2 feet came down, he stretched for the TD, his other elbow hit the turf (down by contact), then the ground forced the bobble (which is irrelevant but that's the play).
Re: The Green Bay Packers
Posted: Sun January 11, 2015 9:15 pm
by EJ
Horrible call on Bryant. Clearly had possession. Tough loss for Dallas.
Re: The Green Bay Packers
Posted: Sun January 11, 2015 9:15 pm
by nyquillyn
Total bullshit call, but... Seattle 35, GB 3
Re: The Green Bay Packers
Posted: Sun January 11, 2015 9:16 pm
by Kaius
I think either of these teams beats Seattle, actually.
Re: The Green Bay Packers
Posted: Sun January 11, 2015 9:16 pm
by Monkey_Driven
Right call according to the rule. Idiotic rule.
Re: The Green Bay Packers
Posted: Sun January 11, 2015 9:18 pm
by lennytheweedwhacker
Monkey_Driven wrote:Right call according to the rule. Idiotic rule.
yep
Re: The Green Bay Packers
Posted: Sun January 11, 2015 9:20 pm
by Green Habit
Guys, the Calvin Johnson rule doesn't have to do with a football move or two feet/one elbow down, it has to do with maintaining possession all the way to the ground.
http://www.si.com/nfl/audibles/2013/09/ ... -not-alone
A player that is going to the ground on his own, which Calvin was on that play, must possess and maintain the possession of the football through the entire act of the catch. The catch did not end in that scenario. When the ball hit the end zone, the ball moved. It rotated. So he didn’t maintain possession of the football.
The ball moved without control. If he would have maintained control of the football throughout the entire process, it’s a touchdown. But when the ball hit in the end zone, the ball moved. He did not have complete control of the football, which is why it's incomplete.
There's a difference between a bad call and a bad rule. I see this as a (very) bad rule called correctly. FWIW, here's Mike Pereira:
Re: The Green Bay Packers
Posted: Sun January 11, 2015 9:20 pm
by @SkitchP
well color me corrected.
Re: The Green Bay Packers
Posted: Sun January 11, 2015 9:22 pm
by spike
karma
Re: The Green Bay Packers
Posted: Sun January 11, 2015 9:23 pm
by lennytheweedwhacker
green bay gets lucky again thanks to the illegal call by the refs
Re: The Green Bay Packers
Posted: Sun January 11, 2015 9:29 pm
by surfndestroy
Green Habit wrote:Guys, the Calvin Johnson rule doesn't have to do with a football move or two feet/one elbow down, it has to do with maintaining possession all the way to the ground.
http://www.si.com/nfl/audibles/2013/09/ ... -not-alone
A player that is going to the ground on his own, which Calvin was on that play, must possess and maintain the possession of the football through the entire act of the catch. The catch did not end in that scenario. When the ball hit the end zone, the ball moved. It rotated. So he didn’t maintain possession of the football.
The ball moved without control. If he would have maintained control of the football throughout the entire process, it’s a touchdown. But when the ball hit in the end zone, the ball moved. He did not have complete control of the football, which is why it's incomplete.
There's a difference between a bad call and a bad rule. I see this as a (very) bad rule called correctly.
I think he did finish the process of the catch. If the rule is called the way they seemed to today, a player could make a catch run ten yards down the field and if he goes down on his own and fumbles the ball, it's not a fumble but no catch.
To me, once Bryant had three feet down, squared his shoulder to the end zone with possession of the ball it became a catch. He then slightly fumbled the ball well after catch and possession had been made.
Re: The Green Bay Packers
Posted: Sun January 11, 2015 9:33 pm
by Green Habit
Re: The Green Bay Packers
Posted: Sun January 11, 2015 9:34 pm
by Electromatic
Green Habit wrote:
Ha. Live by the bullshit call die by the bullshit call.
Solid trolling.