Red Mosquito

tragabigzanda wrote:

tragabigzanda wrote:Top 10 maybe?
Hello Morning
Close Captioned
The Kill
Place/Position
Do You Like Me?
Latest Disgrace
Recap Modotti
Nightshop
Break
Life & Limb

I'd maybe bump Life & Limb for Epic Problem

Birds in Hell wrote:

tragabigzanda wrote:

LoathedVermin72 wrote:Not sure I would go so far as to say it's all his "fault" (seems like a heartless way to describe addiction stemming from sexual abuse), but, like Spenno said, the members of STP weren't his counselors and didn't owe him anything. We don't know how close any of those guys were, and we don't know how much help they did or didn't try to give him. Addicts can be completely unreasonable and impossible to help if they're unwilling. I doubt their continuing to play with him was done out of cold-hearted malice as much as wanting to play music and support themselves.

It's not like they needed the money, LV.

I wouldn't think any of us would be in a position to determine that.

tragabigzanda wrote:AHHH! What the fucking fuck?! This is genuinely the first time I've ever been pissed off on RM. Are you guys really laying out the argument that:

A) the band might have needed some money, and therefore
B) taking their drug-addicted friend and lead-singer through a couple more rounds of the promo machine was an ok choice?

LoathedVermin72 wrote:Man, Trag fucking hates musicians.

Kevin Davis wrote:As a husband and father myself, I sympathize with the hurt he inflicted upon his loved ones through his addiction. But in the end, my relationship with his music exists independently of that -- I have never found a lot of satisfaction in requiring a musician to live up to my own personal standards before I will deign to listen to his or her work. I am sure that the members of STP's role in Scott's life was a tug of war between their desire to help him personally and their desire to see an artistic enterprise that meant something to all of them work out. Beyond that I don't really know what role I have to play in judging the man for his actions, or the band for theirs.

durdencommatyler wrote:

tragabigzanda wrote:AHHH! What the fucking fuck?! This is genuinely the first time I've ever been pissed off on RM. Are you guys really laying out the argument that:

A) the band might have needed some money, and therefore
B) taking their drug-addicted friend and lead-singer through a couple more rounds of the promo machine was an ok choice?

No. Not even a little bit. No one is saying anything remotely like that. I'm flabbergasted that's your take away from this discussion.

Birds in Hell wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

tragabigzanda wrote:AHHH! What the fucking fuck?! This is genuinely the first time I've ever been pissed off on RM. Are you guys really laying out the argument that:

A) the band might have needed some money, and therefore
B) taking their drug-addicted friend and lead-singer through a couple more rounds of the promo machine was an ok choice?

No. Not even a little bit. No one is saying anything remotely like that. I'm flabbergasted that's your take away from this discussion.

No, I was simply saying that, even if the DeLeo brothers and the drummer fellow were confirmed billionaires, I don't think any of us are in a position to say "alright buddy, I think you have enough money now. Time to pack in the band."

LoathedVermin72 wrote:

Birds in Hell wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

tragabigzanda wrote:AHHH! What the fucking fuck?! This is genuinely the first time I've ever been pissed off on RM. Are you guys really laying out the argument that:

A) the band might have needed some money, and therefore
B) taking their drug-addicted friend and lead-singer through a couple more rounds of the promo machine was an ok choice?

No. Not even a little bit. No one is saying anything remotely like that. I'm flabbergasted that's your take away from this discussion.

No, I was simply saying that, even if the DeLeo brothers and the drummer fellow were confirmed billionaires, I don't think any of us are in a position to say "alright buddy, I think you have enough money now. Time to pack in the band."

Exactly

LoathedVermin72 wrote:Hey Kaius why don't you make like Scott Weiland and die

tragabigzanda wrote:

tragabigzanda wrote:Top 10 maybe?
Hello Morning
Close Captioned
The Kill
Place/Position
Do You Like Me?
Latest Disgrace
Recap Modotti
Nightshop
Break
Life & Limb

I'd maybe bump Life & Limb for Epic Problem