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Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Thu December 01, 2016 2:38 am
by Norah
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
That seems pretty sensationalized. That program has been in place for a decade. They're trying to make something out of nothing.
My thoughts exactly.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Thu December 01, 2016 2:52 am
by Bi_3
dimejinky99 wrote:My pal was saying to me Trump and his administration will he kept in check by the beauracracy / heads of different departments/civil servants we call them here.
He'll want to do stuff and they'll go 'you can do this or this but you can't do that'.
Is this true?
To an extent, yes. He will appoint Cabinet level positions and department heads, so we could see regressive approaches towards things like carbon control and corporate regulation, but since the House controls the money, his crazy will be held mostly in check. The most likely damage will come his inability to understand the difference between showmanship and leadership, damaging the US's reputation even worse than Bush II
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Thu December 01, 2016 2:55 am
by dimejinky99
Bi_3 wrote:dimejinky99 wrote:My pal was saying to me Trump and his administration will he kept in check by the beauracracy / heads of different departments/civil servants we call them here.
He'll want to do stuff and they'll go 'you can do this or this but you can't do that'.
Is this true?
To an extent, yes. He will appoint Cabinet level positions and department heads, so we could see regressive approaches towards things like carbon control and corporate regulation, but since the House controls the money, his crazy will be held mostly in check. The most likely damage will come his inability to understand the difference between showmanship and leadership, damaging the US's reputation even worse than Bush II
Well that's worrying too. Matter of time before he loses his cool about that. And how often it happens. Thanks for the reply.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Thu December 01, 2016 3:06 am
by Citizen Dick
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
That seems pretty sensationalized. That program has been in place for a decade. They're trying to make something out of nothing.
I wasn't really taking it very seriously but thought the idea that he might be able to do one of his twitter like rants directly to every mobile phone owner in the US has all sorts of horror/comedy potential.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Thu December 01, 2016 3:13 am
by bada
dimejinky99 wrote:My pal was saying to me Trump and his administration will he kept in check by the beauracracy / heads of different departments/civil servants we call them here.
He'll want to do stuff and they'll go 'you can do this or this but you can't do that'.
Is this true?
Its often said the most powerful person in Washington is the Senate minority leader.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Thu December 01, 2016 3:14 am
by dimejinky99
Imagine he was texting similar to his twitter rants.
He could be sued by everyone in the US for harassment
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Thu December 01, 2016 3:15 am
by 96583UP
The Argonaut wrote:Preet Bharara staying on under Trump/Sessions as U.S. Attorney in the Southern District of N.Y.
A surprising turn of events I'm very glad to see happening.
that is unexpected
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Thu December 01, 2016 3:22 am
by The Argonaut
96583UP wrote:The Argonaut wrote:Preet Bharara staying on under Trump/Sessions as U.S. Attorney in the Southern District of N.Y.
A surprising turn of events I'm very glad to see happening.
that is unexpected
Yeah. I can see why Trump likes the guy. Big, splashy moves. Media-savvy. Has thrown Reps and Dems in prison.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Thu December 01, 2016 3:24 am
by 96583UP
he's also gone on a limb in certain cases where they may have overstretched ... but i guess trump has his enemy's list - and if you're on it, you need someone experienced to go fuck 'em up
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Thu December 01, 2016 3:25 am
by 96583UP
everything must be through the prism of trump being an S.O.B., btw
the answer can never simply be that they are keeping a qualified, principled person in their existing role
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Thu December 01, 2016 3:44 am
by The Argonaut
Yeah, that's not why Trump is keeping Bharara. That's just a fortunate side effect.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Thu December 01, 2016 12:48 pm
by bune
http://i.imgur.com/Jg0gWBo.gifv
What, we can't do inline gifv?
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Thu December 01, 2016 2:41 pm
by McParadigm
https://www.washingtonpost.com/postever ... ald-trump/
Bernie Sanders wrote:In exchange for allowing United Technologies to continue to offshore more than 1,000 jobs, Trump will reportedly give the company tax and regulatory favors that the corporation has sought. Just a short few months ago, Trump was pledging to force United Technologies to “pay a damn tax.” He was insisting on very steep tariffs for companies like Carrier that left the United States and wanted to sell their foreign-made products back in the United States. Instead of a damn tax, the company will be rewarded with a damn tax cut. Wow! How’s that for standing up to corporate greed? How’s that for punishing corporations that shut down in the United States and move abroad?
In essence, United Technologies took Trump hostage and won. And that should send a shock wave of fear through all workers across the country.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Thu December 01, 2016 3:58 pm
by Superblood Wolfmoon
The more I read about
Price's plan to repeal and replace Obamacare, along with
new numbers via CNN showing that a growing majority of Americans want to keep it, makes me think this is going to be disastrous to the Republican party if they pull it off.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Thu December 01, 2016 4:28 pm
by dimejinky99
Trump is going to hire colour not competence. The colour in question being white.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Thu December 01, 2016 4:37 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
dimejinky99 wrote:Trump is going to hire colour not competence. The colour in question being white.
Well, he did appoint Nikki Haley UN Ambassador and she is of Indian descent, and Elaine Chao Secretary of Transportation or something.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Thu December 01, 2016 4:56 pm
by Bi_3
McParadigm wrote:https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2016/12/01/bernie-sanders-carrier-just-showed-corporations-how-to-beat-donald-trump/
Bernie Sanders wrote:In exchange for allowing United Technologies to continue to offshore more than 1,000 jobs, Trump will reportedly give the company tax and regulatory favors that the corporation has sought. Just a short few months ago, Trump was pledging to force United Technologies to “pay a damn tax.” He was insisting on very steep tariffs for companies like Carrier that left the United States and wanted to sell their foreign-made products back in the United States. Instead of a damn tax, the company will be rewarded with a damn tax cut. Wow! How’s that for standing up to corporate greed? How’s that for punishing corporations that shut down in the United States and move abroad?
In essence, United Technologies took Trump hostage and won. And that should send a shock wave of fear through all workers across the country.
Interesting. So cutting corporate taxes keeps jobs here?
But really, the author must be completely ignorant of how the globalized economy works if this news to them. Of course companies do this. We see this at the state level as well.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Thu December 01, 2016 4:58 pm
by Norah
Bi_3 wrote:McParadigm wrote:https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2016/12/01/bernie-sanders-carrier-just-showed-corporations-how-to-beat-donald-trump/
Bernie Sanders wrote:In exchange for allowing United Technologies to continue to offshore more than 1,000 jobs, Trump will reportedly give the company tax and regulatory favors that the corporation has sought. Just a short few months ago, Trump was pledging to force United Technologies to “pay a damn tax.” He was insisting on very steep tariffs for companies like Carrier that left the United States and wanted to sell their foreign-made products back in the United States. Instead of a damn tax, the company will be rewarded with a damn tax cut. Wow! How’s that for standing up to corporate greed? How’s that for punishing corporations that shut down in the United States and move abroad?
In essence, United Technologies took Trump hostage and won. And that should send a shock wave of fear through all workers across the country.
Interesting. So cutting corporate taxes keeps jobs here?
But really, the author must be completely ignorant of how the globalized economy works if this news to them. Of course companies do this. We see this at the state level as well.
That's not really the point.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Thu December 01, 2016 4:59 pm
by Strat
cutuphalfdead wrote:Bi_3 wrote:McParadigm wrote:https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2016/12/01/bernie-sanders-carrier-just-showed-corporations-how-to-beat-donald-trump/
Bernie Sanders wrote:In exchange for allowing United Technologies to continue to offshore more than 1,000 jobs, Trump will reportedly give the company tax and regulatory favors that the corporation has sought. Just a short few months ago, Trump was pledging to force United Technologies to “pay a damn tax.” He was insisting on very steep tariffs for companies like Carrier that left the United States and wanted to sell their foreign-made products back in the United States. Instead of a damn tax, the company will be rewarded with a damn tax cut. Wow! How’s that for standing up to corporate greed? How’s that for punishing corporations that shut down in the United States and move abroad?
In essence, United Technologies took Trump hostage and won. And that should send a shock wave of fear through all workers across the country.
Interesting. So cutting corporate taxes keeps jobs here?
But really, the author must be completely ignorant of how the globalized economy works if this news to them. Of course companies do this. We see this at the state level as well.
That's not really the point.
*Bi_3 avatar image*
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Thu December 01, 2016 5:05 pm
by Simple Torture
Bi_3 wrote:the author must be completely ignorant of how the globalized economy works
