Re: Lightning Bolt: The Official Album Thread
Posted: Fri October 18, 2013 1:44 am
Nice to see a fellow Kelly Clarkston fan. Whats up Lament? Have you been spinning any Nuge?
no waystip wrote:harmless wrote:I don't think so. I think it's that sometimes we know exactly what they're capable of, and that explains our disappointment when they don't quite get there, or fall short completely. But hey, it's fine, no one's trying to take away their vast achievements, least of all me. Favourite band till I die, and all that.stip wrote:harmless wrote:Missed opportunities. Yep. Frustratingly, there's a lot that I could read into this album that would make it seem more cool to me. But I doubt that any of it was deliberate on the part of the band, because, as they've said before, they had no plans going in, so any concept or narrative or reason for doing this or that or the other was imposed on the album after the fact. That's a shame.
some of the other artists on here will have to correct me if I am wrong, but does everyone always start their artistic process with a clear end point in mind. Or sometimes do you sit down to start writing/painting/playing and end up someplace you never expected.
Pearl jam is a band that wrote a number of classic albums, was one of the most influential bands of the 1990s, are likely future members of the R+R hall of fame, are now being accorded elder statesman of rock status, have been writing and recording together for 20+ years, are all active and prolific musicians in and out of the band, each capable of writing a song, and yet we always shy away from thinking that maybe, just maybe, they actually know what they're doing. It's like we're embarrassed to admit that maybe the band is pretty talented.
That's a separate issue, I think, and I'd agree. My standards are higher for Pearl Jam than for most bands (actually,it may be more that PJ is one of the few bands that reliably meets my standards). I just meant that I think we're often quick to dumb down the songs too. While I'll have to agree that I probably over analyze a lot of what's in there, I think there is just as strong, if not a stronger, tendency here to under analyze what's going on.
Nope, yeah I have a couple of others. The No Code "5 elements" and the vinyl centre from Vitalogy.Noaheb wrote:do you hav other pj tats or is this something you wanna do because of this album?harmless wrote:I'm probably gonna still get my LB tattoo I talked about. The album is pretty spotty in places, but I still have an attachment to it that warrants a commemoration of some kind. I'm wondering about the symbols on the last page of the booklet, done just in black outline. The lightning bolt seems too obvious.
Nope. The wave didn't take me that far. Sorry.stip wrote:can you please move this post along to its chorus. that's the best part!
niceharmless wrote:Nope, yeah I have a couple of others. The No Code "5 elements" and the vinyl centre from Vitalogy.Noaheb wrote:do you hav other pj tats or is this something you wanna do because of this album?harmless wrote:I'm probably gonna still get my LB tattoo I talked about. The album is pretty spotty in places, but I still have an attachment to it that warrants a commemoration of some kind. I'm wondering about the symbols on the last page of the booklet, done just in black outline. The lightning bolt seems too obvious.
You have any sketches of this?Tj wrote:I am gonna get a turtle eating a avocado getting struck by a lightning bolt.
also yeah no lightning bolt go with something symbols related like maybe your entire back with the no code-esque album art thing with the song symbolsNoaheb wrote:niceharmless wrote:Nope, yeah I have a couple of others. The No Code "5 elements" and the vinyl centre from Vitalogy.Noaheb wrote:do you hav other pj tats or is this something you wanna do because of this album?harmless wrote:I'm probably gonna still get my LB tattoo I talked about. The album is pretty spotty in places, but I still have an attachment to it that warrants a commemoration of some kind. I'm wondering about the symbols on the last page of the booklet, done just in black outline. The lightning bolt seems too obvious.
ha! Sorry I should'veharmless wrote:Woah, I like the album but I'm not about to get a Lightning Bolt backpiece.
Not yet, I imagine a turtle on a trike eating a avocado like a apple getting struck by a blue bolt of lightning. Then maybe a cartoon bubble that says "release me"Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:You have any sketches of this?Tj wrote:I am gonna get a turtle eating a avocado getting struck by a lightning bolt.
I would hang that picture on my wallTj wrote:Not yet, I imagine a turtle on a trike eating a avocado like a apple getting struck by a blue bolt of lightning. Then maybe a cartoon bubble that says "release me"Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:You have any sketches of this?Tj wrote:I am gonna get a turtle eating a avocado getting struck by a lightning bolt.
I like the idea and would love to see itTj wrote:Not yet, I imagine a turtle on a trike eating a avocado like a apple getting struck by a blue bolt of lightning. Then maybe a cartoon bubble that says "release me"Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:You have any sketches of this?Tj wrote:I am gonna get a turtle eating a avocado getting struck by a lightning bolt.
No Nuge getting played over here, but I just found out there's a Kelly Clarkson Christmas album coming out in a few weeks, so that's pretty exciting.Tj wrote:Nice to see a fellow Kelly Clarkston fan. Whats up Lament? Have you been spinning any Nuge?
It would be deserving of a nice framestip wrote:I would hang that picture on my wallTj wrote:Not yet, I imagine a turtle on a trike eating a avocado like a apple getting struck by a blue bolt of lightning. Then maybe a cartoon bubble that says "release me"Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:You have any sketches of this?Tj wrote:I am gonna get a turtle eating a avocado getting struck by a lightning bolt.
I've worked between the two extremes. For years I would meticulously plan , sketch , layout and execute drawings precisely. I have a phase where I would have no plan but the media I was going to use and let the work form. I don't think either way is more appropriate than the other nor do I think one yields "better" results.stip wrote:harmless wrote:Missed opportunities. Yep. Frustratingly, there's a lot that I could read into this album that would make it seem more cool to me. But I doubt that any of it was deliberate on the part of the band, because, as they've said before, they had no plans going in, so any concept or narrative or reason for doing this or that or the other was imposed on the album after the fact. That's a shame.
some of the other artists on here will have to correct me if I am wrong, but does everyone always start their artistic process with a clear end point in mind. Or sometimes do you sit down to start writing/painting/playing and end up someplace you never expected.
Pearl jam is a band that wrote a number of classic albums, was one of the most influential bands of the 1990s, are likely future members of the R+R hall of fame, are now being accorded elder statesman of rock status, have been writing and recording together for 20+ years, are all active and prolific musicians in and out of the band, each capable of writing a song, and yet we always shy away from thinking that maybe, just maybe, they actually know what they're doing. It's like we're embarrassed to admit that maybe the band is pretty talented.
Lament wrote:No Nuge getting played over here, but I just found out there's a Kelly Clarkson Christmas album coming out in a few weeks, so that's pretty exciting.Tj wrote:Nice to see a fellow Kelly Clarkston fan. Whats up Lament? Have you been spinning any Nuge?
Really that is great I hope you enjoy it. This sounds weird but it is very true I had a dream about having Christmas with Alicia Keys last night. She had 4 Chistmas trees. I spent the whole time explaining to her that she was not a role model.Lament wrote:No Nuge getting played over here, but I just found out there's a Kelly Clarkson Christmas album coming out in a few weeks, so that's pretty exciting.Tj wrote:Nice to see a fellow Kelly Clarkston fan. Whats up Lament? Have you been spinning any Nuge?