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Re: Lightning Bolt: The Official Album Thread

Posted: Fri October 18, 2013 1:44 am
by Tj
Nice to see a fellow Kelly Clarkston fan. Whats up Lament? Have you been spinning any Nuge?

Re: Lightning Bolt: The Official Album Thread

Posted: Fri October 18, 2013 1:45 am
by Noaheb
stip wrote:
harmless wrote:
stip wrote:
harmless wrote:Missed opportunities. Yep. Frustratingly, there's a lot that I could read into this album that would make it seem more cool to me. But I doubt that any of it was deliberate on the part of the band, because, as they've said before, they had no plans going in, so any concept or narrative or reason for doing this or that or the other was imposed on the album after the fact. That's a shame.

some of the other artists on here will have to correct me if I am wrong, but does everyone always start their artistic process with a clear end point in mind. Or sometimes do you sit down to start writing/painting/playing and end up someplace you never expected.


Pearl jam is a band that wrote a number of classic albums, was one of the most influential bands of the 1990s, are likely future members of the R+R hall of fame, are now being accorded elder statesman of rock status, have been writing and recording together for 20+ years, are all active and prolific musicians in and out of the band, each capable of writing a song, and yet we always shy away from thinking that maybe, just maybe, they actually know what they're doing. It's like we're embarrassed to admit that maybe the band is pretty talented.
I don't think so. I think it's that sometimes we know exactly what they're capable of, and that explains our disappointment when they don't quite get there, or fall short completely. But hey, it's fine, no one's trying to take away their vast achievements, least of all me. Favourite band till I die, and all that.

That's a separate issue, I think, and I'd agree. My standards are higher for Pearl Jam than for most bands (actually,it may be more that PJ is one of the few bands that reliably meets my standards). I just meant that I think we're often quick to dumb down the songs too. While I'll have to agree that I probably over analyze a lot of what's in there, I think there is just as strong, if not a stronger, tendency here to under analyze what's going on.
no way

Re: Lightning Bolt: The Official Album Thread

Posted: Fri October 18, 2013 1:45 am
by harmless
Noaheb wrote:
harmless wrote:I'm probably gonna still get my LB tattoo I talked about. The album is pretty spotty in places, but I still have an attachment to it that warrants a commemoration of some kind. I'm wondering about the symbols on the last page of the booklet, done just in black outline. The lightning bolt seems too obvious.
do you hav other pj tats or is this something you wanna do because of this album?
Nope, yeah I have a couple of others. The No Code "5 elements" and the vinyl centre from Vitalogy.

Re: Lightning Bolt: The Official Album Thread

Posted: Fri October 18, 2013 1:46 am
by Lament
stip wrote:can you please move this post along to its chorus. that's the best part!
Nope. The wave didn't take me that far. Sorry.

Re: Lightning Bolt: The Official Album Thread

Posted: Fri October 18, 2013 1:47 am
by Tj
I am gonna get a turtle eating a avocado getting struck by a lightning bolt.

Re: Lightning Bolt: The Official Album Thread

Posted: Fri October 18, 2013 1:48 am
by Noaheb
harmless wrote:
Noaheb wrote:
harmless wrote:I'm probably gonna still get my LB tattoo I talked about. The album is pretty spotty in places, but I still have an attachment to it that warrants a commemoration of some kind. I'm wondering about the symbols on the last page of the booklet, done just in black outline. The lightning bolt seems too obvious.
do you hav other pj tats or is this something you wanna do because of this album?
Nope, yeah I have a couple of others. The No Code "5 elements" and the vinyl centre from Vitalogy.
nice :thumbsup:

Re: Lightning Bolt: The Official Album Thread

Posted: Fri October 18, 2013 1:49 am
by Dr. Van Nostrand
Tj wrote:I am gonna get a turtle eating a avocado getting struck by a lightning bolt.
You have any sketches of this?

Re: Lightning Bolt: The Official Album Thread

Posted: Fri October 18, 2013 1:49 am
by Noaheb
Noaheb wrote:
harmless wrote:
Noaheb wrote:
harmless wrote:I'm probably gonna still get my LB tattoo I talked about. The album is pretty spotty in places, but I still have an attachment to it that warrants a commemoration of some kind. I'm wondering about the symbols on the last page of the booklet, done just in black outline. The lightning bolt seems too obvious.
do you hav other pj tats or is this something you wanna do because of this album?
Nope, yeah I have a couple of others. The No Code "5 elements" and the vinyl centre from Vitalogy.
nice :thumbsup:
also yeah no lightning bolt go with something symbols related like maybe your entire back with the no code-esque album art thing with the song symbols

Re: Lightning Bolt: The Official Album Thread

Posted: Fri October 18, 2013 1:50 am
by harmless
Woah, I like the album but I'm not about to get a Lightning Bolt backpiece.

Re: Lightning Bolt: The Official Album Thread

Posted: Fri October 18, 2013 1:52 am
by Noaheb
harmless wrote:Woah, I like the album but I'm not about to get a Lightning Bolt backpiece.
ha! Sorry I should've :arrow:

Re: Lightning Bolt: The Official Album Thread

Posted: Fri October 18, 2013 1:53 am
by Tj
Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:
Tj wrote:I am gonna get a turtle eating a avocado getting struck by a lightning bolt.
You have any sketches of this?
Not yet, I imagine a turtle on a trike eating a avocado like a apple getting struck by a blue bolt of lightning. Then maybe a cartoon bubble that says "release me"

Re: Lightning Bolt: The Official Album Thread

Posted: Fri October 18, 2013 1:54 am
by harmless
Probably going to get the symbols along the forearm. Maybe. Dunno.

Re: Lightning Bolt: The Official Album Thread

Posted: Fri October 18, 2013 1:54 am
by stip
Tj wrote:
Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:
Tj wrote:I am gonna get a turtle eating a avocado getting struck by a lightning bolt.
You have any sketches of this?
Not yet, I imagine a turtle on a trike eating a avocado like a apple getting struck by a blue bolt of lightning. Then maybe a cartoon bubble that says "release me"
I would hang that picture on my wall

Re: Lightning Bolt: The Official Album Thread

Posted: Fri October 18, 2013 1:54 am
by Dr. Van Nostrand
Tj wrote:
Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:
Tj wrote:I am gonna get a turtle eating a avocado getting struck by a lightning bolt.
You have any sketches of this?
Not yet, I imagine a turtle on a trike eating a avocado like a apple getting struck by a blue bolt of lightning. Then maybe a cartoon bubble that says "release me"
I like the idea and would love to see it

Re: Lightning Bolt: The Official Album Thread

Posted: Fri October 18, 2013 1:54 am
by Lament
Tj wrote:Nice to see a fellow Kelly Clarkston fan. Whats up Lament? Have you been spinning any Nuge?
No Nuge getting played over here, but I just found out there's a Kelly Clarkson Christmas album coming out in a few weeks, so that's pretty exciting.

Re: Lightning Bolt: The Official Album Thread

Posted: Fri October 18, 2013 1:56 am
by Dr. Van Nostrand
stip wrote:
Tj wrote:
Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:
Tj wrote:I am gonna get a turtle eating a avocado getting struck by a lightning bolt.
You have any sketches of this?
Not yet, I imagine a turtle on a trike eating a avocado like a apple getting struck by a blue bolt of lightning. Then maybe a cartoon bubble that says "release me"
I would hang that picture on my wall
It would be deserving of a nice frame

Re: Lightning Bolt: The Official Album Thread

Posted: Fri October 18, 2013 1:56 am
by Thejambi
stip wrote:
harmless wrote:Missed opportunities. Yep. Frustratingly, there's a lot that I could read into this album that would make it seem more cool to me. But I doubt that any of it was deliberate on the part of the band, because, as they've said before, they had no plans going in, so any concept or narrative or reason for doing this or that or the other was imposed on the album after the fact. That's a shame.

some of the other artists on here will have to correct me if I am wrong, but does everyone always start their artistic process with a clear end point in mind. Or sometimes do you sit down to start writing/painting/playing and end up someplace you never expected.


Pearl jam is a band that wrote a number of classic albums, was one of the most influential bands of the 1990s, are likely future members of the R+R hall of fame, are now being accorded elder statesman of rock status, have been writing and recording together for 20+ years, are all active and prolific musicians in and out of the band, each capable of writing a song, and yet we always shy away from thinking that maybe, just maybe, they actually know what they're doing. It's like we're embarrassed to admit that maybe the band is pretty talented.
I've worked between the two extremes. For years I would meticulously plan , sketch , layout and execute drawings precisely. I have a phase where I would have no plan but the media I was going to use and let the work form. I don't think either way is more appropriate than the other nor do I think one yields "better" results.

I've personally found the middle to be the sweet spot. I have general ideas and feelings that I want to put into a piece. I'll often start for one thing but a mark, smudge , "accident" or change of emotion will lead me in a different direction. I describe it as letting the drawing talk to me. The process becomes more reactionary and fluid.

Re: Lightning Bolt: The Official Album Thread

Posted: Fri October 18, 2013 1:57 am
by Dr. Van Nostrand
Lament wrote:
Tj wrote:Nice to see a fellow Kelly Clarkston fan. Whats up Lament? Have you been spinning any Nuge?
No Nuge getting played over here, but I just found out there's a Kelly Clarkson Christmas album coming out in a few weeks, so that's pretty exciting.
:D

Re: Lightning Bolt: The Official Album Thread

Posted: Fri October 18, 2013 1:58 am
by Tj
Lament wrote:
Tj wrote:Nice to see a fellow Kelly Clarkston fan. Whats up Lament? Have you been spinning any Nuge?
No Nuge getting played over here, but I just found out there's a Kelly Clarkson Christmas album coming out in a few weeks, so that's pretty exciting.
Really that is great I hope you enjoy it. This sounds weird but it is very true I had a dream about having Christmas with Alicia Keys last night. She had 4 Chistmas trees. I spent the whole time explaining to her that she was not a role model.

Re: Lightning Bolt: The Official Album Thread

Posted: Fri October 18, 2013 1:59 am
by TrickyRickey
I love infallible, it is a completely different type of song.