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Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Tue August 01, 2017 4:02 pm
by McParadigm

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Tue August 01, 2017 4:08 pm
by Norah
McParadigm wrote:
McParadigm wrote:NPR:

The Fox News Channel and a wealthy supporter of President Trump worked in concert under the watchful eye of the White House to concoct a story about the murder of a young Democratic National Committee aide, according to a lawsuit filed Tuesday.

The explosive claim is part of the lawsuit filed against Fox News by Rod Wheeler, a longtime paid commentator for the news network. The suit was obtained exclusively by NPR.
Spoiler: show
Wheeler alleges Fox News and the Trump supporter intended to deflect public attention from growing concern about the administration's ties to the Russian government. His suit charges that a Fox News reporter created quotations out of thin air and attributed them to him to propel her story.

Fox's president of news, Jay Wallace, told NPR Monday there was no "concrete evidence" that Wheeler was misquoted by the reporter, Malia Zimmerman. The news executive did not address a question about the story's allegedly partisan origins. Fox News declined to allow Zimmerman to comment for this story.

The story, which first aired in May, was retracted by Fox News a week later. Fox News has, to date, taken no action in response to what it said was a failure to adhere to the network's standards.

The lawsuit focuses particular attention on the role of the Trump supporter, Ed Butowsky, in weaving the story. He is a wealthy Dallas investor and unpaid Fox commentator on financial matters, who has emerged as a reliable Republican surrogate in recent years. Butowsky offered to pay for Wheeler to investigate the death of the DNC aide, Seth Rich, on behalf of his grieving parents in Omaha.

On April 20, a month before the story ran, Butowsky and Wheeler — the investor and the investigator — met at the White House with then Press Secretary Sean Spicer to brief him on what they were uncovering.

The first page of the lawsuit quotes a voicemail and text from Butowsky boasting that President Trump himself had reviewed drafts of the Fox News story just before it went to air and was published.
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Also, I love that they can't even get the interns in line.
This is fucked up.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Tue August 01, 2017 4:08 pm
by McParadigm
Jared on leaks

To record today’s session would be such a breach of trust, from my opinion. This town is full of leakers and everyone knows who they are, and no one trusts them. In this business your reputation is everything, I’ve been on the hill for 15 years. I’ve sat in countless meetings with members of congress where important decisions were being made. During all those years in all those meetings, I never once leaked to a reporter. …. If someone in your office has asked you to break our protocol and give you a recording so they can leak it, as a manager, that bothers me at my core.

On Israel / Palestine

Everyone finds an issue, that, 'You have to understand what they did then' and 'You have to understand that they did this.' But how does that help us get peace? Let's not focus on that. We don’t want a history lesson. We’ve read enough books. Let’s focus on how do you come up with a conclusion to the situation.

On Middle East peace

So, what do we offer that's unique? I don’t know

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Tue August 01, 2017 4:12 pm
by McParadigm
Never have 'unintelligible's been so comedically placed.
So the two successes that we’ve had so far is—I don’t know if you’re familiar with the deal we’ve had on the water with the Jordanians and the Israelis and the Palestinians—so I was saying that they’ve talked about in concept for a lot of years where [unintelligible] and we were able to figure out how we were going to negotiate a solution which simply [unintelligible] talking for a very, very long time

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Tue August 01, 2017 4:14 pm
by Norah
where are you getting these quotes from?

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Tue August 01, 2017 4:14 pm
by philpritchard
McParadigm wrote:We’ve read enough books.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Tue August 01, 2017 4:18 pm
by bune
McParadigm wrote:Jared on leaks

To record today’s session would be such a breach of trust, from my opinion. This town is full of leakers and everyone knows who they are, and no one trusts them. In this business your reputation is everything, I’ve been on the hill for 15 years. I’ve sat in countless meetings with members of congress where important decisions were being made. During all those years in all those meetings, I never once leaked to a reporter. …. If someone in your office has asked you to break our protocol and give you a recording so they can leak it, as a manager, that bothers me at my core.

On Israel / Palestine

Everyone finds an issue, that, 'You have to understand what they did then' and 'You have to understand that they did this.' But how does that help us get peace? Let's not focus on that. We don’t want a history lesson. We’ve read enough books. Let’s focus on how do you come up with a conclusion to the situation.

On Middle East peace

So, what do we offer that's unique? I don’t know
And yet you cannot find them. That's odd.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Tue August 01, 2017 4:28 pm
by McParadigm
cutuphalfdead wrote:where are you getting these quotes from?
https://www.wired.com/story/jared-kushn ... e-east/amp

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Tue August 01, 2017 5:00 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
On how to deal with North Korea:
"We will handle North Korea. We are gonna be able to handle them. It will be handled. We handle everything,"

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Tue August 01, 2017 5:02 pm
by malice
E.H. Ruddock wrote:On how to deal with North Korea:
"We will handle North Korea. We are gonna be able to handle them. It will be handled. We handle everything,"
I wish i knew how to post animated gifs from my phone

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Tue August 01, 2017 5:02 pm
by Strat
We're so dead. All of us.

Also, I read an article this morning that the idea is their missile has the capability of hitting LA, denver, or Chicago.

Welp.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Tue August 01, 2017 5:02 pm
by Norah
I just can't imagine someone thinking the best way to solve an ongoing, generations long sectarian struggle is to ignore the history.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Tue August 01, 2017 5:05 pm
by tragabigzanda
cutuphalfdead wrote:I just can't imagine someone thinking the best way to solve an ongoing, generations long sectarian struggle is to ignore the history.
Just to play devil's advocate, that approach would probably be best for Israel & Palestine.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Tue August 01, 2017 5:09 pm
by Norah
tragabigzanda wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:I just can't imagine someone thinking the best way to solve an ongoing, generations long sectarian struggle is to ignore the history.
Just to play devil's advocate, that approach would probably be best for Israel & Palestine.
There's a difference between moving beyond past grievances and ignoring historical context.

What if Bill Clinton had said "you know what, who gives a fuck about the systemic discrimination against Catholics in Northern Ireland over the last few centuries? Just stop killing each other!"? He would have been laughed out of the peace process.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Tue August 01, 2017 5:10 pm
by Norah
In order to get people to sit down and talk things out you have to make them feel like you're taking their concerns seriously.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Tue August 01, 2017 5:15 pm
by Simple Torture
Oh no, you got chud to talk about Ireland. Damn you, trag. Damn you.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Tue August 01, 2017 5:58 pm
by McParadigm
The only lessons any rational human can take from reading books are:

1. you can never have read enough books.
2. you ought to try anyway.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Tue August 01, 2017 5:59 pm
by McParadigm
Meanwhile, in what I assume has to be an alternate universe...

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Tue August 01, 2017 7:51 pm
by Green Habit

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Tue August 01, 2017 8:43 pm
by wease
Green Habit wrote:
Funny, but the no sound thing made it feel off somehow