Re: America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?
Posted: Wed June 08, 2022 4:47 pm
Are they really to keep you safe from brown people?
macphisto wrote:It’s as if there’s no point in arguing with a statist. You want my scary guns, come and get them.elliseamos wrote:Still nothing.
It's as if he can't explain how ARs defeat tyranny.
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Statistically, yes. But I have no reservations about shooting people who look like me if they need shooting.spike wrote:Are they really to keep you safe from brown people?
All this argument does is absolve you (the gun rights advocate) of any responsibility. I’ve often heard the argument that the left shouldn’t set gun laws, because it doesn’t understand gun culture. Therefore, gun owners (and their advocates) should come up with the law. So… what happens when it gets to the point where the gun side just says “F you, nothing will be done.”macphisto wrote:macphisto wrote:
I’m not harassing him. I have pretty moderate views on guns. I’m asking why the gun side chooses to just do nothing. Every poll shows that certain things (background checks, for example) have very wide support, even among gun owners. So why can’t it get done? He posted a tweet with one explanation, so I gave my opinion.Bi_3 wrote:I think Mac has been sufficiently harassed, friends. Back to topic mayhaps?
Canada gonna Canada:
https://calgarysun.com/opinion/columnis ... gun-crimes
Even Florida managed to do a little bit after Stoneman Douglas so it is possible.Rob wrote:The gun side points fingers at the other side and asks to be the ones in charge. They don’t even do the things their own members say they want. So maybe… I dunno. Another way?
It shouldn’t take a crisis or mass shooting event. I would be perfectly fine with the gun rights side being in charge of the law if they showed they were capable. Public opinion vs things done does not reflect this, and hasn’t for a long time.4/5 wrote:Even Florida managed to do a little bit after Stoneman Douglas so it is possible.Rob wrote:The gun side points fingers at the other side and asks to be the ones in charge. They don’t even do the things their own members say they want. So maybe… I dunno. Another way?
No one's said anything yet about the extremely racist fantasy he posted, so no, I don't think he's been sufficiently harassed.Bi_3 wrote:I think Mac has been sufficiently harassed, friends.
macphisto wrote:FBI statistics are racist?

It’s disturbing how easy that was to draw out of him.Mickey wrote:No one's said anything yet about the extremely racist fantasy he posted, so no, I don't think he's been sufficiently harassed.Bi_3 wrote:I think Mac has been sufficiently harassed, friends.
macphisto wrote:FBI statistics are racist?
https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/201 ... -bjs-studyIn a report released Thursday titled Race and Hispanic Origin of Victims and Offenders, 2012-2015, the DOJ’s Bureau of Justice Statistics found that a majority of most violent crimes are committed by people who are the same race as their victims. Indeed, the rate of white-on-white violent crime, it found, is about four times the rate of black-on-white crime.
That's misleading relative to his dubious assertion.Mickey wrote:macphisto wrote:FBI statistics are racist?https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/201 ... -bjs-studyIn a report released Thursday titled Race and Hispanic Origin of Victims and Offenders, 2012-2015, the DOJ’s Bureau of Justice Statistics found that a majority of most violent crimes are committed by people who are the same race as their victims. Indeed, the rate of white-on-white violent crime, it found, is about four times the rate of black-on-white crime.
Probably useless endeavor to combat deeply-entrenched racial fantasies with empirical data, but again, more than 4:1.Bi_3 wrote:That's misleading relative to his dubious assertion.Mickey wrote:macphisto wrote:FBI statistics are racist?https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/201 ... -bjs-studyIn a report released Thursday titled Race and Hispanic Origin of Victims and Offenders, 2012-2015, the DOJ’s Bureau of Justice Statistics found that a majority of most violent crimes are committed by people who are the same race as their victims. Indeed, the rate of white-on-white violent crime, it found, is about four times the rate of black-on-white crime.
Here's the most recent UCR data that makes the comaprison, make of it what you will:
https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/20 ... able-6.xls
Not to mention how he believes it takes “balls” to be a mass murderer.Mickey wrote:No one's said anything yet about the extremely racist fantasy he posted, so no, I don't think he's been sufficiently harassed.Bi_3 wrote:I think Mac has been sufficiently harassed, friends.