Red Mosquito

Mickey wrote:I do want to point out, though--and again, not trying to pick a fight, just curious how you square this: earlier in this thread you argued that high-risk people are responsible for themselves and shouldn't expect other people to wear masks for their benefit (specifically in the context of wearing one while running on crowded city sidewalks). Does personal responsibility for addiction not play a role here too? If we, say, adopted your postal code plan, would this not penalize other people who live in that postal code, some of whom might need their checks asap?

Lest this appear as some kind of gotcha, my real point here is this: isn't there a larger question about the extent to which we can allow drug addiction--which to some extent is unavoidable--to guide how we implement social programs? Isn't there a danger that by invoking it, you've opened a pathway for chipping away at universal social programs until they've become means-tested? In order words, are the engineers of social programs responsible for people (drug addicts) who are in some significant way not responsible for themselves, even if we acknowledge that addiction can be genetic or that it can be brought on by social and economic conditions outside the addict's control?

digster wrote:I'm curious what people around the country are seeing in terms of the frequency of face masks. I feel like until the past day or two, the use of face masks has been almost 100%; everyone had one on, or seemed to have one available if they had taken it off for a few minutes. Again, this has gone down a bit in the past few days, but I didn't know if they were as ever-present around the country as they are here.

Higgs wrote:21st of May was the last time you reported over 25,000 new cases across the US in a day. I'll bet you $100 that you get above that again within the next 3 weeks.

Aus dollars, so about tree-fiddy US.

EDIT - let's make it more interesting. Last time you were over 27,000 was 8th of May. Let's go with $100 that the US records over 27,000 cases in a day at some point in the future.

FWIW I would be very glad to lose and pay out on this bet.

knee tunes wrote:

Higgs wrote:21st of May was the last time you reported over 25,000 new cases across the US in a day. I'll bet you $100 that you get above that again within the next 3 weeks.

Aus dollars, so about tree-fiddy US.

EDIT - let's make it more interesting. Last time you were over 27,000 was 8th of May. Let's go with $100 that the US records over 27,000 cases in a day at some point in the future.

FWIW I would be very glad to lose and pay out on this bet.

Whatever you say. I'll bet the opposite but I'll just need a friendly reminder when I lose or win. Im a lazy gambler

verb_to_trust wrote:If they're running the same amount of tests on the weekends like they are a lot of states it's not a big deal. The deaths are what they don't seem to report on the weekends.

digster wrote:I'm curious what people around the country are seeing in terms of the frequency of face masks. I feel like until the past day or two, the use of face masks has been almost 100%; everyone had one on, or seemed to have one available if they had taken it off for a few minutes. Again, this has gone down a bit in the past few days, but I didn't know if they were as ever-present around the country as they are here.

digster wrote:I'm curious what people around the country are seeing in terms of the frequency of face masks. I feel like until the past day or two, the use of face masks has been almost 100%; everyone had one on, or seemed to have one available if they had taken it off for a few minutes. Again, this has gone down a bit in the past few days, but I didn't know if they were as ever-present around the country as they are here.

B wrote:

digster wrote:I'm curious what people around the country are seeing in terms of the frequency of face masks. I feel like until the past day or two, the use of face masks has been almost 100%; everyone had one on, or seemed to have one available if they had taken it off for a few minutes. Again, this has gone down a bit in the past few days, but I didn't know if they were as ever-present around the country as they are here.

My county passed a mask requirement.

I was at the main intersection of town counting people Friday night. I counted 30 people without masks, 1 with a mask around their neck, and 0 people wearing masks.

Granted, the requirement in indoors, but presumably, the people walking through downtown are about to go into a building.

On the plus side, the restaurant I was going to for take out, wouldn't let anyone in to even pick up their order unless they were wearing a mask.

Joesanity wrote:Cedar Point is about to open in July and is requiring everyone over 2 years old to have a mask. This goes above and beyond state requirements for amusement parks in Ohio. A lot of people are complaining and say they won't go which I'm totally fine with as that leaves fewer people trying to get a reservation to get in.

Higgs wrote:

verb_to_trust wrote:If they're running the same amount of tests on the weekends like they are a lot of states it's not a big deal. The deaths are what they don't seem to report on the weekends.

Oh yeah.

wease wrote:We tested more people today at my office than we have in the past two weeks combined.