Lightning Bolt: The Official Album Thread

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Getaway
42
13%
Mind Your Manners
8
2%
My Father's Son
38
12%
Sirens
23
7%
Lightning Bolt
21
6%
Infallible
38
12%
Pendulum
88
27%
Swallowed Whole
21
6%
Let the Records Play
7
2%
Sleeping By Myself
7
2%
Yellow Moon
32
10%
Future Days
4
1%
 
Total votes: 329

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harmless wrote:
Thejambi wrote:
harmless wrote:Yeah, it's just very simplistic and obvious, when it should be one of the highlights of the song.
Maybe not extremes but two comparisons in which that intro could have been more successful:
Go: Intro really isn't repeated in the song but it has charm, intrigue and busts out with energy.
DTE: much simpler of an intro that really isn't different than the verse. However just the guitars gearing up and eds howl sets the song up with intent and tact.

I guess i want to compare these two because Getaway falls in the middle of these two. There is some noodling like Go but it isnt very interesting and it tries to slide right into the verse but doesn't carry the same weight that DTE does.
Getaway has intro noodling? Where? It just starts with some snare and the palm-muted guitar riff with the distortion turned off. Part of the problem is that annoying palm-muted chug chug chug that Ed keeps doing. He needs to think outside that box. At least Sirens is a welcome change from that.
How about using the wooden block from Infallible as a lead in? tock tock tock tock
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harmless wrote:
Thejambi wrote:
harmless wrote:Yeah, it's just very simplistic and obvious, when it should be one of the highlights of the song.
Maybe not extremes but two comparisons in which that intro could have been more successful:
Go: Intro really isn't repeated in the song but it has charm, intrigue and busts out with energy.
DTE: much simpler of an intro that really isn't different than the verse. However just the guitars gearing up and eds howl sets the song up with intent and tact.

I guess i want to compare these two because Getaway falls in the middle of these two. There is some noodling like Go but it isnt very interesting and it tries to slide right into the verse but doesn't carry the same weight that DTE does.
Getaway has intro noodling? Where? It just starts with some snare and the palm-muted guitar riff with the distortion turned off. Part of the problem is that annoying palm-muted chug chug chug that Ed keeps doing. He needs to think outside that box. At least Sirens is a welcome change from that.
That's what I'm referring to as the noodlng: lame ass palm muted guitars.
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I quite like the Getaway intro. It's a nice little stuttering intro to the album, like a machine getting ready to go.
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EJ wrote:
harmless wrote:
Thejambi wrote:
harmless wrote:Yeah, it's just very simplistic and obvious, when it should be one of the highlights of the song.
Maybe not extremes but two comparisons in which that intro could have been more successful:
Go: Intro really isn't repeated in the song but it has charm, intrigue and busts out with energy.
DTE: much simpler of an intro that really isn't different than the verse. However just the guitars gearing up and eds howl sets the song up with intent and tact.

I guess i want to compare these two because Getaway falls in the middle of these two. There is some noodling like Go but it isnt very interesting and it tries to slide right into the verse but doesn't carry the same weight that DTE does.
Getaway has intro noodling? Where? It just starts with some snare and the palm-muted guitar riff with the distortion turned off. Part of the problem is that annoying palm-muted chug chug chug that Ed keeps doing. He needs to think outside that box. At least Sirens is a welcome change from that.
How about using the wooden block from Infallible as a lead in? tock tock tock tock
Yeah that could work. Needs more cowbell!
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Juvenal wrote:I quite like the Getaway intro. It's a nice little stuttering intro to the album, like a machine getting ready to go.
yeah, I don't mind it all. Then again, I pretty much like everything about this song.
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Thejambi wrote:
harmless wrote:
Thejambi wrote:
harmless wrote:Yeah, it's just very simplistic and obvious, when it should be one of the highlights of the song.
Maybe not extremes but two comparisons in which that intro could have been more successful:
Go: Intro really isn't repeated in the song but it has charm, intrigue and busts out with energy.
DTE: much simpler of an intro that really isn't different than the verse. However just the guitars gearing up and eds howl sets the song up with intent and tact.

I guess i want to compare these two because Getaway falls in the middle of these two. There is some noodling like Go but it isnt very interesting and it tries to slide right into the verse but doesn't carry the same weight that DTE does.
Getaway has intro noodling? Where? It just starts with some snare and the palm-muted guitar riff with the distortion turned off. Part of the problem is that annoying palm-muted chug chug chug that Ed keeps doing. He needs to think outside that box. At least Sirens is a welcome change from that.
That's what I'm referring to as the noodlng: lame ass palm muted guitars.
Oh, yeah. I mean, even if they'd put distortion on it, it would've improved things. Still, I like the drums in there. Matt could've done something more interesting but that's life.
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I know it's not a popular opinion, or the cool choice, but I think Sirens might be my favorite. I didn't like it the first few times, but it hits that spot.
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jdopj wrote:I know it's not a popular opinion, or the cool choice, but I think Sirens might be my favorite. I didn't like it the first few times, but it hits that spot.
It is a hard spot to find.
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It's my favourite too. Nothing on the album touches it, imo.
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Thejambi wrote:
jdopj wrote:I know it's not a popular opinion, or the cool choice, but I think Sirens might be my favorite. I didn't like it the first few times, but it hits that spot.
It is a hard spot to find.
Not if someone shows you where it is.
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jdopj wrote:
Thejambi wrote:
jdopj wrote:I know it's not a popular opinion, or the cool choice, but I think Sirens might be my favorite. I didn't like it the first few times, but it hits that spot.
It is a hard spot to find.
Not if someone shows you where it is.
I found it accidentally while I was doing something else.
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harmless wrote:
jdopj wrote:
Thejambi wrote:
jdopj wrote:I know it's not a popular opinion, or the cool choice, but I think Sirens might be my favorite. I didn't like it the first few times, but it hits that spot.
It is a hard spot to find.
Not if someone shows you where it is.
I found it accidentally while I was doing something else.
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EJ wrote:
harmless wrote:
jdopj wrote:
Thejambi wrote:
jdopj wrote:I know it's not a popular opinion, or the cool choice, but I think Sirens might be my favorite. I didn't like it the first few times, but it hits that spot.
It is a hard spot to find.
Not if someone shows you where it is.
I found it accidentally while I was doing something else.
The reverse swirl?

That's my move!
Nah it was more of a flick
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Thejambi wrote:
EJ wrote:
harmless wrote:
jdopj wrote:
Thejambi wrote:
jdopj wrote:I know it's not a popular opinion, or the cool choice, but I think Sirens might be my favorite. I didn't like it the first few times, but it hits that spot.
It is a hard spot to find.
Not if someone shows you where it is.
I found it accidentally while I was doing something else.
The reverse swirl?

That's my move!
Nah it was more of a flick
a chick flick?
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KurtLeon wrote:Like Clockwork >>>>> Lightning Bolt
Hell, I Appear Missing>>>>>>Lightning Bolt
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stupidmop wrote:
KurtLeon wrote:Like Clockwork >>>>> Lightning Bolt
Hell, I Appear Missing>>>>>>Lightning Bolt
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joshualukin wrote:
stupidmop wrote:
KurtLeon wrote:Like Clockwork >>>>> Lightning Bolt
Hell, I Appear Missing>>>>>>Lightning Bolt
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I always though Deep would sound better with a palm muted intro. In all seriousness, I liked it on Wishlist and Unthought Known but after a few songs it all becomes a bit Status Quo (intro wise, the songs still mainly kick ass).
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Status Quo, yes! That's what these intros keep making me think of... oh dear.
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