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Re: Anybody want a Corona?
Posted: Tue June 16, 2020 11:50 pm
by Birds in Hell
Can we keep social distancing forever?
I never want to stand closer than 1.5m to most people.
Re: Anybody want a Corona?
Posted: Tue June 16, 2020 11:51 pm
by Mickey
Birds in Hell wrote:Can we keep social distancing forever?
I never want to stand closer than 1.5m to most people.
Yeah I love this, it rules.
Re: Anybody want a Corona?
Posted: Wed June 17, 2020 12:36 am
by Norah
The best part of the pandemic was the lack of traffic, but that's going away now.
The second best part is not having to hold the elevator.
Re: Anybody want a Corona?
Posted: Wed June 17, 2020 12:40 am
by tragabigzanda
FUCK ICE
Re: Anybody want a Corona?
Posted: Wed June 17, 2020 1:20 am
by B
If it's my poop, it's not gonna give ME the COVIDs.
Re: Anybody want a Corona?
Posted: Wed June 17, 2020 1:31 am
by E.H. Ruddock
Man, the last time plumes was a thing on RM, that was really something
Re: Anybody want a Corona?
Posted: Wed June 17, 2020 1:37 am
by bart
You should be putting the lid down before you flush no matter what, otherwise your entire bathroom is disgusting
Re: Anybody want a Corona?
Posted: Wed June 17, 2020 1:45 am
by 96583UP
B wrote:
If it's my poop, it's not gonna give ME the COVIDs.
this strikes me like the kind of article that will be disproven 2 months from now (a la 'you should fear fomite transfer bc tests show it can live on cardboard for 3 days') but for now gets a lot of clicks <fast forward 2 months and 14 days from now: 96583UP dies in intensive care following Covid toilet plume>
Re: Anybody want a Corona?
Posted: Wed June 17, 2020 1:52 am
by verb_to_trust
Just put the lid down when you flush.
Re: Anybody want a Corona?
Posted: Wed June 17, 2020 1:55 am
by 96583UP
never
Re: Anybody want a Corona?
Posted: Wed June 17, 2020 1:57 am
by McParadigm
Have we price is righted final death count guesses for the US?
Re: Anybody want a Corona?
Posted: Wed June 17, 2020 1:58 am
by McParadigm
I’ll buy the winner a bottle of whisky, in memory of doug
Re: Anybody want a Corona?
Posted: Wed June 17, 2020 2:00 am
by Norah
350k
Re: Anybody want a Corona?
Posted: Wed June 17, 2020 2:02 am
by LetMeSleep
What's the cut off date? This could go on for years.
Re: Anybody want a Corona?
Posted: Wed June 17, 2020 2:09 am
by bart
What do you mean by final? I think we’ll hit 200k this year in the US unfortunately. Even if there’s a vaccine plus way more effective treatment I think we’ll always have some small number of people dying from covid every year unless the current strains are totally overtaken by less deadly ones.
Re: Anybody want a Corona?
Posted: Wed June 17, 2020 2:12 am
by Mickey
350k-400k before widespread vaccination sounds likely. 200k this year, 125k the year after, 50k as a vaccination program is developed. In theory we could count forever but outbreak-to-vaccination sounds like the most useful window for thinking about how deadly it is.
Re: Anybody want a Corona?
Posted: Wed June 17, 2020 2:16 am
by 96583UP
yes, also because antibodies may not always matter ... granted this is synthetic lab stuff...
https://time.com/5854242/antibody-test-use/
In the study published in medRxiv, a preprint server for posting studies before they are peer-reviewed, a team at the Lindsley F. Kimball Research Institute of the New York Blood Center and Rockefeller University analyzed 370 plasma samples donated from people who recovered from COVID-19 and found some surprising results. The researchers used several antibody testing methods, including two commercially available tests, to document levels of immune system antibodies those patients generated against SARS-CoV-2, the virus behind COVID-19. (All produced similarly reliable readings.) The researchers then tested these antibodies against a SARS-CoV-2 virus substitute in the lab to see if the antibodies could actually neutralize the virus (such stand-ins, which mimic actual viruses without being infectious, are often used to laboratory research settings to avoid spreading disease).
Overall, around 88% of the people generated varying levels of antibodies to the virus. But only about 10% of them had high levels that were able to neutralize the lab-based version of the COVID-19 virus—and, on the other side of the spectrum, 17% had almost no antibody response to their infection.
What that means is so-called “natural immunity” to SARS-CoV-2 may be more complicated than the idea that everyone infected with COVID-19 is robustly protected from getting the disease again, says Dr. Larry Luchsinger, assistant member at the research institute and the lead author of the paper. “There was a very significant group of people who had essentially no neutralizing activity [against the virus]. What we found was that surprisingly, across all tests, there was a very wide deviation or range of antibody results that people were experiencing.”
Re: Anybody want a Corona?
Posted: Wed June 17, 2020 2:25 am
by McParadigm
Mickey wrote:350k-400k before widespread vaccination sounds likely.
Mickey has 400k before vaccination, which is the standard.
Chud has 350k.
I’ll take 500k.
Re: Anybody want a Corona?
Posted: Wed June 17, 2020 2:26 am
by McParadigm
I would accept 490k as a bet, but not 499.
Re: Anybody want a Corona?
Posted: Wed June 17, 2020 2:29 am
by elliseamos
How are we calculating deaths?
I'll go $1, please.