Red Mosquito

stip wrote:

E.H. Ruddock wrote:

stip wrote:i wonder if her dragon getting shot sobers her.

they did a great job w the ballista. I also like that the lannisters may have held their own against the dothraki (who i have never liked)

Held their own? Bronn is the only one that survived, really

because drogon broke them

BurtReynolds wrote:I'm not rooting for either "side", they are clearly differing degrees of awfulness, but the show does a good job of humanizing the individuals involved. You care about the people like Jaime or Tyrion, but when you look at it from a wider scale, it's really just petty tyrants lusting for power. I've seen nothing to indicate Dany is there as a liberator. She's there to take what is "hers". Sure, she says and probably believes she will be a good ruler once she's in power, but most tyrants probably do, and they think the ends justify the means. Contrast that with the Starks, who will go to the wall for their principles.

I think this is the point.

From a purely storytelling standpoint, the world has taught Dany all the wrong lessons. People act as if she's changed in a good way, to become the ruler Westeros deserves, but that's not true at all. When she does something good, she's punished. When she's violent, she is rewarded. The world has made her one of them. I don't think the creators intend for this to be a good thing, unless they are incredibly cynical. In order for her to become a hero, she is going to have to change at some point. Maybe the white walkers coming over the wall will change her, but I dunno. Running out of time.

E.H. Ruddock wrote:

stip wrote:i wonder if her dragon getting shot sobers her.

they did a great job w the ballista. I also like that the lannisters may have held their own against the dothraki (who i have never liked)

Held their own? Bronn is the only one that survived, really

stip wrote:

BurtReynolds wrote:I'm not rooting for either "side", they are clearly differing degrees of awfulness, but the show does a good job of humanizing the individuals involved. You care about the people like Jaime or Tyrion, but when you look at it from a wider scale, it's really just petty tyrants lusting for power. I've seen nothing to indicate Dany is there as a liberator. She's there to take what is "hers". Sure, she says and probably believes she will be a good ruler once she's in power, but most tyrants probably do, and they think the ends justify the means. Contrast that with the Starks, who will go to the wall for their principles.

I think this is the point.

From a purely storytelling standpoint, the world has taught Dany all the wrong lessons. People act as if she's changed in a good way, to become the ruler Westeros deserves, but that's not true at all. When she does something good, she's punished. When she's violent, she is rewarded. The world has made her one of them. I don't think the creators intend for this to be a good thing, unless they are incredibly cynical. In order for her to become a hero, she is going to have to change at some point. Maybe the white walkers coming over the wall will change her, but I dunno. Running out of time.

great post but I wouldnt say the starks. just Jon and maybe ned

BurtReynolds wrote:She may still have good intentions, but you know what they say about the road to hell...

Mecca wrote:

BurtReynolds wrote:She may still have good intentions, but you know what they say about the road to hell...

her people can't live in good intentions
oh the dothraki are out of control, but we can't blame dany cuz she has good intenions

Mecca wrote:

BurtReynolds wrote:She may still have good intentions, but you know what they say about the road to hell...

her people can't live in good intentions
oh the dothraki are out of control, but we can't blame dany cuz she has good intenions

Mecca wrote:why did Jamie sink so far? they were literally on the edge of the water

BurtReynolds wrote:It's kinda funny that Bronn hasn't even appeared this season, yet he was fucking Bronn Rambo, hero of the show in this episode. Someone give that guy a throne!