Red Mosquito

warehouse wrote:is barb ireland gonna be on this thing?

I fucking hope so.

cutuphalfdead wrote:

warehouse wrote:is barb ireland gonna be on this thing?

I fucking hope so.

Her album "Red" is the only music that I intend to buy.
I didn't know Barbara Ireland until the 2008 project. Probably the best "introduction" to broader audience that Stone Gossard put his brandname beside (especially in comparison with Brad). Even that covers of Elvis seemed like avant garde goofing.

However I think he tortured her a little: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxkRPARwKgI

First single? Salmon Song!

Farmer John wrote:First single? Salmon Song!

turned2black wrote:

evenslow wrote:

turned2black wrote:

evenslow wrote:For those who haven't listened to Bayleaf, press play, turn it up. If you like it, move forward. If you don't, there's no cure for shitty taste.

My taste is pretty good, except for a slight Madonna obsession. I would explain why I don't like it, but your post doesn't seem to call for debate.

Is this like the part where they put the cape on James Brown and we have to beg him to come back?

I have listened to Bayleaf a couple of times since my initial post in this thread and have to admit it's better than I remembered.
While I find the vocal delivery pretty terrible and many of the lyrics clunky, the guitars and song structures are pretty goddamn interesting.
While I doubt it will get any serious time in my rotation, it'll get an occasional listen.
I stand corrected.

fair enough - he's obviously not the greatest vocalist in the world but I think by and large the music carries him across the finish line.

I heard it in full recently for the first time and I was really impressed. The voice doesn't really take away from it, although I was expecting something a little more humble and eccentric that Ed's vocal acrobatics. It's kind of a perfect release for a solo/side project; a really interesting, cool little insight into one of the members of a band you're into.

I would much rather listen to Stone sing than Ed sing at this point.

cutuphalfdead wrote:I would much rather listen to Stone sing than Ed sing at this point.

I just slapped my head so hard that I reread this and... nope, still stupid.

evenslow wrote:

cutuphalfdead wrote:I would much rather listen to Stone sing than Ed sing at this point.

I just slapped my head so hard that I reread this and... nope, still stupid.

Maybe not an Ed solo show, but I absolutely prefer Stone's vocals on Bayleaf and the 2008-ish songs he put out to the breathy over annunciating Ed in Pearl Jam vocals of the last 5 years.

And that's a big maybe about the solo shows.

cutuphalfdead wrote:Ed solo show

key words here - dude can still bring it. don't be so hyperbolic son. you're better than that.

evenslow wrote:

cutuphalfdead wrote:Ed solo show

key words here - dude can still bring it. don't be so hyperbolic son. you're better than that.

No, it really is that bad in Pearl Jam.

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cutuphalfdead wrote:And that's a big maybe about the solo shows.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sZ2JBcUmcg

I like how Ed tries to say they didn't play the songs he liked on the radio in the 70's. What a liar. Stone displays his dominance here. It was clearly his band at the time.

cutuphalfdead wrote:

evenslow wrote:

cutuphalfdead wrote:Ed solo show

key words here - dude can still bring it. don't be so hyperbolic son. you're better than that.

No, it really is that bad in Pearl Jam.

and

cutuphalfdead wrote:And that's a big maybe about the solo shows.

On second thought, you're completely right. Stone could totally pull off the mix of warmth, maturity and targeted power (while also harmonizing) like Ed does here.

verb_to_trust wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sZ2JBcUmcg

I like how Ed tries to say they didn't play the songs he liked on the radio in the 70's. What a liar. Stone displays his dominance here. It was clearly his band at the time.

two moments that stood out to me:

3:12 - SG: [about Ed leaving CA for Seattle] "He's investing in more surfing" --- I'd say that held true.

14:36 - EV: [about the future] "Our 3rd record is going to be so amazing... we don't even want to make the 2nd one" --- this parts true, too.

cutuphalfdead wrote:I would much rather listen to Stone sing than Ed sing at this point.

LOL what r u lookin for attention?

cutuphalfdead wrote:I would much rather listen to Stone sing than Ed sing at this point.

Stone. Poop in a shoebox. Just remember who called it first!

evenslow wrote:

cutuphalfdead wrote:

evenslow wrote:

cutuphalfdead wrote:Ed solo show

key words here - dude can still bring it. don't be so hyperbolic son. you're better than that.

No, it really is that bad in Pearl Jam.

and

cutuphalfdead wrote:And that's a big maybe about the solo shows.

On second thought, you're completely right. Stone could totally pull off the mix of warmth, maturity and targeted power (while also harmonizing) like Ed does here.

Stone will never be the live singer Ed is, or was. Ed is a natural performer, and shares with many of pop music's greatest singers a knack for fusing spectacle (however modest) and melodic variation with an uncanny ability to render almost anything he sings entirely his own. Whether its due to inability or underdevelopment, Stone doesn't have that--his presence is awkward and his voice doesn't have much traveling capacity.

However, with "Bayleaf" Stone composed a record that was 100% suited to his strengths, something which it doesn't seem one can necessarily count on Pearl Jam to do at this point in time. To be fair, "Bayleaf" is over ten years old, and there's no real "track record" to indicate a follow-up would be equally well-considered; also to be fair, most of Eddie's serious missteps as a singer haven't been related to new studio material, but rather his insistence on continuing to perform songs in concert that are clearly beyond his current limitations. I thought he sounded as good as he could have been expected to sound on the ukulele album, and I'd say the same thing about the one-off tracks that have popped up over the last few years ("Ole," "Skipping," "Better Days," etc.). Misguided though it may be, I don't fear poor vocals from Ed on the next record as much as I fear poor songs. His voice is still a powerful instrument; even singers whose voices are in great states of deterioration can still be moving, because those instincts for how to render a song are ingrained in them. They just need discipline.

But I don't think saying that one would rather hear Stone sing at this point is necessarily a side-by-side catch-all comparison of the two singers. Most of us have heard virtually every musical note out of Eddie Vedder's mouth over the last decade--any of us could take any song we're familiar with, and in our mind create a reasonable facsimile of what Eddie Vedder would sound like singing it. His voice holds no surprises for us at this point, as gripped as we've all been by it in the past. At his best, Stone is a charismatic, inquisitive songwriter, and his geeky alien-sounding voice serves his material (personally, I thought all the weakest tunes on "Bayleaf" were the ones sung by Ty Willman), but when I listen to him sing I still feel like there are stories in his voice I haven't quite figured out yet, and that's the kind of thing that invites playback.

While I think that was a great post KD, I must say I find nothing interesting about Stone's voice. There's no sense of hurt or wonder that a lot of songwriters with questionable voices can pull off. And his voice has no real "quirkiness" either. There's nothing that draws me in.

i like Stone voice...yeah, he isnt the best singer out there, but he´s good...Most of his singing songs in pearl jam are aware of that.
Im looking forward to some great acoustic gems in this new record.