Red Mosquito

Birds in Hell wrote:

Strat wrote:The beginning of the end, sure as shit.

I don't think it's the beginning.

I think the band clearly benefited from the enforced discipline of being signed to a major label like Sony and working with people who weren't their hometown buddies.

I'm reminded of that old post (by punkdavid?) where he observed that who could've predicted that what the band wanted by leaving their major label contract was the freedom to do absolutely nothing.

Well, as stone mentioned in the recent look back at VS....they were chomping at the bit to put out music and prove they were better than Ten.

My point is, i think the band actually wanted to and could work their assess off for a number of years that wasn't just at the behest of a record company.

They are old now and this is just what fucking happens. They worked their assess off for 16 years but have pretty much been coasting ever since then.

I didnt think they would age as such...alas...I was wrong.

Birds in Hell wrote:

Strat wrote:The beginning of the end, sure as shit.

I don't think it's the beginning.

I think the band clearly benefited from the enforced discipline of being signed to a major label like Sony and working with people who weren't their hometown buddies.

I'm reminded of that old post (by punkdavid?) where he observed that who could've predicted that what the band wanted by leaving their major label contract was the freedom to do absolutely nothing.

It might have been McParadigm. Either way I remember that post.

Bi_3 wrote:

Strat wrote:They're dinosaurs.

Neil Young gets it and he's 178 years old. his new NYA subscription with website/app/ and presale tickets is fantastic. All for $20 a year.

Not sure that’s a good comparison, but I get your point.


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Strat wrote:They worked their assess off for 16 years but have pretty much been coasting ever since then.

The exact period of time they were signed to Sony or an associated label (just saying).

I agree that responsibility for all of this rests with the band and that sixteen years is a long time for any group of people to remain excited about working together.

Y’all sound like a bunch of bitter divorcées. Better 15 years of garbage singles than end up like AIC or Nirvana

Yes, this is better than them dying. But it's not better than them calling it quits after the 2006 tour.

cutuphalfdead wrote:Yes, this is better than them dying. But it's not better than them calling it quits after the 2006 tour.

Though there has been some great shows since then, you do have a point there.

Strat wrote:They are old now and this is just what fucking happens.

Don't really have a dog in the fight here, but I've got to objectively call bullshit on this particular post. That's not "just what happens." Do I even need to list the dinosaurs, dead and alive, who never phoned it in?

washing machine wrote:

Strat wrote:They are old now and this is just what fucking happens.

Don't really have a dog in the fight here, but I've got to objectively call bullshit on this particular post. That's not "just what happens." Do I even need to list the dinosaurs, dead and alive, who never phoned it in?

Just calm down.

They should have quit after Rosklide

Sony resulted in better work product

verb_to_trust wrote:They should have quit after Rosklide

*Roskilde

Bi_3 wrote:Y’all sound like a bunch of bitter divorcées. Better 15 years of garbage singles than end up like AIC or Nirvana

Dead?

This means the membership price is decreasing, right? I don't know how these things work but it feels like it should?

Don’t hold your breath.

Monkey_Driven wrote:My membership just renewed about a week or two ago. When is the cutoff date for 2018 single? Meaning, can I email to cancel and still get the 2018 single?

My understanding of the system is that you have paid for 2018, thus qualifying for the last of the singles. As it currently stands, you can cancel or downgrade without sacrificing a single.

DISCLAIMER: B is just a dude and doesn't really know shit about 10C practices. All answers are speculation unless otherwise verified by an e-mail to info@tenclub.net.

CopperTom wrote:Seems more like the beginning of the end to the 10 Club, rather than Pearl Jam itself. I think, Pearl Jam employs 20+ employees. Some are on the road during tours and in the warehouse otherwise - some are in the warehouse all the time. The band has stated then need to "hit the road" to pay the bills. No 10 Club = less bills = less touring = quasi retirement.

Maybe they'll then have a half-assed fan club by Wonderful Union.

I've always disagreed with the philosophy of the Ten Club being a business that should turn a profit. It would be a lot better if they just let it lose money and used it as promotional.

B wrote:

CopperTom wrote:Seems more like the beginning of the end to the 10 Club, rather than Pearl Jam itself. I think, Pearl Jam employs 20+ employees. Some are on the road during tours and in the warehouse otherwise - some are in the warehouse all the time. The band has stated then need to "hit the road" to pay the bills. No 10 Club = less bills = less touring = quasi retirement.

Maybe they'll then have a half-assed fan club by Wonderful Union.

I've always disagreed with the philosophy of the Ten Club being a business that should turn a profit. It would be a lot better if they just let it lose money and used it as promotional.

This is exactly the kind of thinking that leads to firepole-less homes and regular seats at Chicago Cubs games.

which is a worse-run organization:

Tim Biermann's Ten Club

or

Dan Snyder's Washington Redskins


tough one....

Bi_3 wrote:

verb_to_trust wrote:They should have quit after Rosklide

*Roskilde

Whatever