Red Mosquito

Kevin Davis wrote:

theplatypus wrote:And also, judging craftsmanship is in itself a subjective value judgment

Right, but I think it's possible for this to be a different subjective value judgment than judging what you personally enjoy the most, and I think the underlying premise of the thread was for people to make those two separate but equally subjective value judgments, and compare the lists. Not subjectivity vs. objectivity, but subjectivity through one lens vs. subjectivity through another. Maybe TJ can clarify whether this is what he meant.

Jaeti wrote:

Kevin Davis wrote:

theplatypus wrote:And also, judging craftsmanship is in itself a subjective value judgment

Right, but I think it's possible for this to be a different subjective value judgment than judging what you personally enjoy the most, and I think the underlying premise of the thread was for people to make those two separate but equally subjective value judgments, and compare the lists. Not subjectivity vs. objectivity, but subjectivity through one lens vs. subjectivity through another. Maybe TJ can clarify whether this is what he meant.

Yeah, I read it this way from the start.

stip wrote:I really like Future Days for a number of personal reasons. I think it's a competent song, but it punches above its weight class for me. I would never call it one of their best

Tj wrote:

stip wrote:I really like Future Days for a number of personal reasons. I think it's a competent song, but it punches above its weight class for me. I would never call it one of their best

Time and place stamps for songs are very important. That song always takes me back to very bad medical diagnosis and some time after that news had sprouted driving home from somewhere with my wife asleep in the passenger seat, and my young son drifting off in the back. I was left alone with my thoughts. Then this song comes on and it is telling me it will be okay.

Farmer John wrote:I just wanted to announce that I've consolidated my "Favourite" and "Best" lists, and I now officially consider Leatherman one of the Best Pearl Jam Songs.

Monkey_Driven wrote:

Tj wrote:

stip wrote:I really like Future Days for a number of personal reasons. I think it's a competent song, but it punches above its weight class for me. I would never call it one of their best

Time and place stamps for songs are very important. That song always takes me back to very bad medical diagnosis and some time after that news had sprouted driving home from somewhere with my wife asleep in the passenger seat, and my young son drifting off in the back. I was left alone with my thoughts. Then this song comes on and it is telling me it will be okay.

Beautiful.

Tj wrote:

stip wrote:I really like Future Days for a number of personal reasons. I think it's a competent song, but it punches above its weight class for me. I would never call it one of their best

Time and place stamps for songs are very important. That song always takes me back to very bad medical diagnosis and some time after that news had sprouted driving home from somewhere with my wife asleep in the passenger seat, and my young son drifting off in the back. I was left alone with my thoughts. Then this song comes on and it is telling me it will be okay.

stip wrote:well you could have picked bugs

Tj wrote: Time and place stamps for songs are very important.

guitar_davey wrote:Hot take...

Favourites:

Alive
Why Go
Animal
Rats
Last Exit
Not For You
Hail Hail
In My Tree
Off He Goes
I Got Shit
Brain of J
In Hiding
All Those Yesterdays
Grievance
Sleight of Hand
Can't Keep
Save You
All Night
Black, Red, Yellow
Man of the Hour
WWS
Amongst the Waves
Mind Your Manners
Lightning Bolt
Who Ever Said
Comes Then Goes

Best:

Even Flow
Alive
Black
Animal
Daughter
Corduroy
Better Man
Immortality
In My Tree
Present Tense
Given to Fly
Do the Evolution
In Hiding
Nothing as it Seems
Love Boat Captain
I Am Mine
Man of the Hour
Severed Hand
Unemployable
Dance of the Clairvoyants
Quick Escape
Seven O'Clock

Jorge wrote:There is no meaningful distinction between "favorite" and "best". There is no good way to objectively determine "best".

Ms Harmless wrote:

Jorge wrote:There is no meaningful distinction between "favorite" and "best". There is no good way to objectively determine "best".