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Re: Late Career Masterpieces

Posted: Thu June 11, 2020 6:30 pm
by Norah
stip wrote:Accelerate
no

Re: Late Career Masterpieces

Posted: Thu June 11, 2020 6:31 pm
by VinylGuy
Oh yeah both Accelerate and Collapse are wonderful

Re: Late Career Masterpieces

Posted: Thu June 11, 2020 6:57 pm
by epilogue
cutuphalfdead wrote:
stip wrote:Accelerate
no
bless you

Re: Late Career Masterpieces

Posted: Thu June 11, 2020 6:59 pm
by Norah
If anything maybe Up is a late career masterpiece, if you consider anything post-Berry to be late career.

Re: Late Career Masterpieces

Posted: Thu June 11, 2020 7:02 pm
by VinylGuy
I think both Accelerate and Collapse are better than Up.

Up is fine, i get it, its weird and experimental and has some very good singles but its not something i wanna listen to.

Re: Late Career Masterpieces

Posted: Thu June 11, 2020 7:05 pm
by Norah
You know, I'm going to say REM doesn't have a late career masterpiece. Up, to me, is clearly the best post-Berry record. But to be a late career masterpiece it has to rival the quality of the best stuff in the earlier part of the career.

Re: Late Career Masterpieces

Posted: Thu June 11, 2020 7:06 pm
by tragabigzanda
tragabigzanda wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:Top 10 maybe?
Hello Morning
Close Captioned
The Kill
Place/Position
Do You Like Me?
Latest Disgrace
Recap Modotti
Nightshop
Break
Life & Limb
I'd maybe bump Life & Limb for Epic Problem

Re: Late Career Masterpieces

Posted: Thu June 11, 2020 7:08 pm
by VinylGuy
cutuphalfdead wrote:You know, I'm going to say REM doesn't have a late career masterpiece. Up, to me, is clearly the best post-Berry record. But to be a late career masterpiece it has to rival the quality of the best stuff in the earlier part of the career.
yeah, i could agree with this. Im not sure Accelerate is in the same league that Hi Fi, which i consider is their last masterpiece.

But, we could argue that their catalogue is incredible.

Re: Late Career Masterpieces

Posted: Thu June 11, 2020 7:08 pm
by Norah
tragabigzanda wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:You know, I'm going to say REM doesn't have a late career masterpiece. Up, to me, is clearly the best post-Berry record. But to be a late career masterpiece it has to rival the quality of the best stuff in the earlier part of the career.
I think up meets that criteria
It's the closest thing they have, for sure.

Re: Late Career Masterpieces

Posted: Thu June 11, 2020 7:13 pm
by Iholdthepain
Accelerate was relevant when it came out. The country had just gone through Hurricane Katrina, and there were themes from the resulting chaos, violence, and government failures. There is renewed passion all over the album... I will argue that the production value may have been its biggest downfall (back me up, Trag), but I kinda like the dirty, lo-fi sound of it.

Re: Late Career Masterpieces

Posted: Thu June 11, 2020 7:15 pm
by tragabigzanda

Re: Late Career Masterpieces

Posted: Thu June 11, 2020 7:16 pm
by bodysnatcher
I think we’re losing the meaning of the word “masterpiece”

Re: Late Career Masterpieces

Posted: Thu June 11, 2020 7:16 pm
by Norah
exactly, this isn't a thread for surprisingly good late career albums

Re: Late Career Masterpieces

Posted: Thu June 11, 2020 7:17 pm
by Iholdthepain
tragabigzanda wrote:Oh yeah, I will definitely back that up. It actually reminds me a lot of Summerteeth in that regard: really rich compositions that feel inaccessible.
agreed, completely tone-deaf production... unlike Rage's debut ( ;) )

Re: Late Career Masterpieces

Posted: Thu June 11, 2020 7:20 pm
by Iholdthepain
bodysnatcher wrote:I think we’re losing the meaning of the word “masterpiece”
cutuphalfdead wrote:exactly, this isn't a thread for surprisingly good late career albums
Ok, I'll do better playing your game:

Image

Re: Late Career Masterpieces

Posted: Thu June 11, 2020 8:06 pm
by Iholdthepain
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Re: Late Career Masterpieces

Posted: Thu June 11, 2020 9:46 pm
by liebzz
Superblood Wolfmoon wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:Wildflowers
Now we’re talking
Wildflowers is definitely a masterpiece but late career? I think not.
Then Hypnotic Eye.

Re: Late Career Masterpieces

Posted: Thu June 11, 2020 9:49 pm
by liebzz
Bammer wrote:
Superblood Wolfmoon wrote:Image
Savage
How could this count!? They were 6 years into their career as a band and Cobain was 26 years old?

Re: Late Career Masterpieces

Posted: Thu June 11, 2020 9:53 pm
by Monkey_Driven
liebzz wrote:
Bammer wrote:
Superblood Wolfmoon wrote:Image
Savage
How could this count!? They were 6 years into their career as a band and Cobain was 26 years old?
It was late in their career too.

Re: Late Career Masterpieces

Posted: Thu June 11, 2020 11:47 pm
by chewm
Up is totally a late career masterpiece.

I love Ghosteen by Nick Cave but I haven't listened to enough of his stuff to compare, the Tribe record is the best answer for this thread.

Also yeah if the talk talk records count then definitely those