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Re: Black Lives Matter
Posted: Wed June 10, 2020 10:13 pm
by tree_
Honestly I'm just trying to figure it out, haven't put much thought into it before. And I've come across convincing arguments, though I'm not yet convinced. I'm dropping it for tonight but I hope to research further and come to more conclusive evidence or anti evidence tomorrow or soon. Either way though, what's frustrating to me is how ppl on Facebook and everywhere I look are throwing the word racist around so casually, and all this protesting doesn't make sense to me as of now. I'm willing and ready to learn and figure this thing out.
Re: Black Lives Matter
Posted: Wed June 10, 2020 10:16 pm
by Norah
"I'm willing and ready to learn" says the person ignoring what people are saying.
Re: Black Lives Matter
Posted: Wed June 10, 2020 10:18 pm
by epilogue
cutuphalfdead wrote:"I'm willing and ready to learn" says the person ignoring what people are saying.
"anti-evidence"
Re: Black Lives Matter
Posted: Wed June 10, 2020 10:18 pm
by tree_
Wow chud. So because I'm not blindly agreeing with your conclusion, I'm unwilling to learn? Just wow. Talk about bad faith. Give me concrete evidence of something and let me parse it.
Re: Black Lives Matter
Posted: Wed June 10, 2020 10:19 pm
by tree_
I'm telling you guys I have no set opinion on this and you're still belittling me. The worst.
Re: Black Lives Matter
Posted: Wed June 10, 2020 10:19 pm
by Strat
If you're still trying to learn if systemic racism exists then uh....
Re: Black Lives Matter
Posted: Wed June 10, 2020 10:20 pm
by Strat
tree learned a new word today...parse
Re: Black Lives Matter
Posted: Wed June 10, 2020 10:20 pm
by tree_
Just being honest strat. I haven't like sat down and studied this before.
Re: Black Lives Matter
Posted: Wed June 10, 2020 10:20 pm
by digster
You seem adamant that it couldn't be systemic racism, or at least that it's not so clear-cut that we shouldn't say that it is. That makes me assume there must be some clear-cut alternative explanations for the disparities I pointed out to you.
Re: Black Lives Matter
Posted: Wed June 10, 2020 10:21 pm
by tree_
Just don't know for sure yet and don't want to just jump to the popular opinion cause it's easy.
Re: Black Lives Matter
Posted: Wed June 10, 2020 10:22 pm
by tragabigzanda
FUCK ICE
Re: Black Lives Matter
Posted: Wed June 10, 2020 10:24 pm
by swan
wease wrote:swan wrote:Someone arguing that systemic racism isn't a thing in America is probably the dumbest thing I've ever read on this board. I've been here off & on since 2003. Just wow.
In light of this post, please change your fucking signature.
Very good point. No more idealistic PJ lyrics for me!
Re: Black Lives Matter
Posted: Wed June 10, 2020 10:28 pm
by wease
tragabigzanda wrote:tree_ wrote:Someone just please give me one blatant example of systemic racism.
getting a black man fired for snoozing on the job
Exactly
Re: Black Lives Matter
Posted: Wed June 10, 2020 10:33 pm
by tree_
He wasn't fired precisely because he played the racism card. He's a terrible employee with many strikes against him from many other issues. He still has his job because he's black, ironically.
Re: Black Lives Matter
Posted: Wed June 10, 2020 10:35 pm
by Mickey
Can we ban tree_ from this subforum? This shit is so tiresome.
Re: Black Lives Matter
Posted: Wed June 10, 2020 10:36 pm
by Norah
"He still has his job because he's black" said the man who questions whether systemic racism even exists in America.
Re: Black Lives Matter
Posted: Wed June 10, 2020 10:36 pm
by wease
Mickey wrote:Can we ban tree_ from this subforum? This shit is so tiresome.
I’ve been trying for years. More power to you.
Re: Black Lives Matter
Posted: Wed June 10, 2020 10:36 pm
by wease
cutuphalfdead wrote:"He still has his job because he's black" said the man who questions whether systemic racism even exists in America.
Why are you still opening his posts?!?
Re: Black Lives Matter
Posted: Wed June 10, 2020 10:37 pm
by tragabigzanda
FUCK ICE
Re: Black Lives Matter
Posted: Wed June 10, 2020 10:40 pm
by Mickey
wease wrote:Mickey wrote:Can we ban tree_ from this subforum? This shit is so tiresome.
I’ve been trying for years. More power to you.
I agree that I should have more power.