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Re: New Song: Lightning Bolt
Posted: Sat July 20, 2013 1:11 pm
by dprival78
i like this one, but i don't like how eddy continues to try to push his voice to places it can't go anymore (as in this song, just before the outro). he does sound good prior to that though, and i'm sure he'll sound good on the studio version.
Re: New Song: Lightning Bolt
Posted: Sat July 20, 2013 1:12 pm
by harmless
stupidmop wrote:she come on like a stone
but she don't know where from she was thrown
Re: New Song: Lightning Bolt
Posted: Sat July 20, 2013 1:13 pm
by harmless
McParadigm wrote:you gotta know you'll never let her go
Shes a lightning bolt
lightning bolt
Oh dear god say it isn't so.
No way I'm watching that video, now.
I hope they name this song (Somethingman) in parentheses. Because he won't let this one go.
Re: New Song: Lightning Bolt
Posted: Sat July 20, 2013 1:15 pm
by stupidmop
Lmao , there's a high possibility that all of those lyrics are wrong.
Honestly it sounds kinda yieldy to me. And not just the e-bow but that helps. The guitar melodys and mike's solos.
Re: New Song: Lightning Bolt
Posted: Sat July 20, 2013 1:17 pm
by Kevin Davis
The closest this sounds to anything on Yield would be "Leatherman" or "U."
Re: New Song: Lightning Bolt
Posted: Sat July 20, 2013 1:18 pm
by harmless
stupidmop wrote:Lmao , there's a high possibility that all of those lyrics are wrong.
Honestly it sounds kinda yieldy to me. And not just the e-bow but that helps. The guitar melodys and mike's solos.
Quite a bit of Backspacer was Yieldy, I thought. But the production ruined it. If the production is better on this one (and I have no reason to think it won't be, since Backspacer's schtick was obvious from the word go) then it's possible.
Re: New Song: Lightning Bolt
Posted: Sat July 20, 2013 1:20 pm
by Birds in Hell
I'm not sure what to make of this yet.
On first impression, I don't care very much for that verse melody but I do like the "lightning booolt" chorus.
Re: New Song: Lightning Bolt
Posted: Sat July 20, 2013 1:22 pm
by stip
harmless wrote:Everyone might hate me for saying this, but the earliest example we have of this kind of emotional 'bland' song is probably Better Man. But the production of that song, and the instrumentation and passion of the performance, lifts it and makes it more than it should be.
i don't hate you, but only because I'm trying very hard not to.
Re: New Song: Lightning Bolt
Posted: Sat July 20, 2013 1:22 pm
by McParadigm
I lied. I listened. Not really impressed very much at all....maybe it'll sound better on record, but ugh
Re: New Song: Lightning Bolt
Posted: Sat July 20, 2013 1:24 pm
by Waverider
stupidmop wrote:Lmao , there's a high possibility that all of those lyrics are wrong.
Honestly it sounds kinda yieldy to me. And not just the e-bow but that helps. The guitar melodys and mike's solos.
Those lyrics sound bang on actually.
Re: New Song: Lightning Bolt
Posted: Sat July 20, 2013 1:25 pm
by Waverider
stip wrote:harmless wrote:Everyone might hate me for saying this, but the earliest example we have of this kind of emotional 'bland' song is probably Better Man. But the production of that song, and the instrumentation and passion of the performance, lifts it and makes it more than it should be.
i don't hate you, but only because I'm trying very hard not to.
Re: New Song: Lightning Bolt
Posted: Sat July 20, 2013 1:26 pm
by McParadigm
Birds in Hell wrote:I'm not sure what to make of this yet.
On first impression, I don't care very much for that verse melody but I do like the "lightning booolt" chorus.
Ed yelling "LIGHTNING BOLT" over the top of a cinnamon toast crunch chorus was
easily my "worst case scenario" upon learning the name of the album. It's not even fair to call it stupid...that wouldn't be going far enough.
Hopefully, in a studio setting, the rest of the song makes it less cringe-inducing. But this sounds a little like one of those "we've been doing this for a long time and we didn't really have anything to say but we do know how to put part a into slot b," mid-to-late career dullsville moments so many bands put out.
Re: new song: lightning
Posted: Sat July 20, 2013 1:26 pm
by stip
Kevin Davis wrote:stip wrote:It's an upbeat, celebratory song. So if you only want pearl jam to write DARKNESS AND ANGER (unless it is yield, where it is okay for some reason)
C'mon, man. You know there are many shades of emotion between "darkness and anger" and "celebratory," and you know that even though both groups songs may reflect more or less positive frames of mind, these new songs both have
considerably different vibes than the songs on Yield. The piano on "Future Days" almost sounds like contemporary Christian rock--that's almost assuredly not a choice they'd have made in 1998.
Well, this was just talking about Lightning Bolt, not Future Days. And I'm oversimplifying and being a bit hostile, but after years of this shit I'm out of patience for what read like knee jerk "it's not angry or depressed so I don't like it" reaction that infects much of the criticism here. Maybe I'm still railing against old demons, and there is the obvious caveat that this doesn't apply to everyone and it is totally possible to just not like the song on the merits.
Re: New Song: Lightning Bolt
Posted: Sat July 20, 2013 1:34 pm
by stupidmop
Kevin Davis wrote:The closest this sounds to anything on Yield would be "Leatherman" or "U."
Reminds me a little of In Hiding, nothing specific though. Idk if you were being serious but i really like leatherman, so thats not a bad thing for me.
Birds in Hell wrote:I'm not sure what to make of this yet.
On first impression, I don't care very much for that verse melody but I do like the "lightning booolt" chorus.
High five!
I think we're the only two who prefer the chorus to the verses.
Re: new song: lightning
Posted: Sat July 20, 2013 1:35 pm
by harmless
stip wrote:Kevin Davis wrote:stip wrote:It's an upbeat, celebratory song. So if you only want pearl jam to write DARKNESS AND ANGER (unless it is yield, where it is okay for some reason)
C'mon, man. You know there are many shades of emotion between "darkness and anger" and "celebratory," and you know that even though both groups songs may reflect more or less positive frames of mind, these new songs both have
considerably different vibes than the songs on Yield. The piano on "Future Days" almost sounds like contemporary Christian rock--that's almost assuredly not a choice they'd have made in 1998.
Well, this was just talking about Lightning Bolt, not Future Days. And I'm oversimplifying and being a bit hostile, but after years of this shit I'm out of patience for what read like knee jerk "it's not angry or depressed so I don't like it" reaction that infects much of the criticism here. Maybe I'm still railing against old demons, and there is the obvious caveat that this doesn't apply to everyone and it is totally possible to just not like the song on the merits.
It's not like I need darkness in a song, but I do need some element of depth, and if a song doesn't offset its happiness with a little darkness, it'll be fine but it'll lack any multi-facetedness. That's why The Fixer works better than Supersonic. Cheesy is all Supersonic is, but The Fixer at least tries for more.
Re: New Song: Lightning Bolt
Posted: Sat July 20, 2013 1:48 pm
by WtOB?
I feel more "uplifted" by Mind Your Manners than I do by any song on Backspacer.
Re: New Song: Lightning Bolt
Posted: Sat July 20, 2013 1:50 pm
by harmless
Probably because MYM is better, but I don't think it's more "uplifting" by design.
Re: New Song: Lightning Bolt
Posted: Sat July 20, 2013 1:53 pm
by Birds in Hell
I'm not sure good rock music exists that's uplifting by design.
Re: New Song: Lightning Bolt
Posted: Sat July 20, 2013 1:59 pm
by harmless
That's why I hate U2.
Re: New Song: Lightning Bolt
Posted: Sat July 20, 2013 2:05 pm
by Thejambi
stupidmop wrote:she come on like a stone
but she don't know where from she was thrown
like a burning meteor
????
Shes looking for a place to land
She said you got yourselves some sand
And whatever you (?) she took as (?)
Now she comes (?)
With her new replanted seeds
soon you're thrown down on your knees
And then you're dead
And then before you know
the weeds are (obesly?) overgrown
With the all the wild seeds she sows
in your sleep
you gotta know you'll never let her go
Shes a lightning bolt
lightning boltx2
Always something and never nothing
isn't that the way we're taught to dream, to dream
looking through the worn out pages
stages when you knew not who to be
until the lightning strike sets you free
you gotta know you'll never let her go
Shes a lightning bolt
lightning boltx2
crashing so many waves (really ed, again?)
??? shoreline every day
????? choose to sing (i got nothing for this verse basically)
And then before you know
the weeds are (obesly?) overgrown
With the all the wild seeds she sows
in your sleep
ksghfjkghkjhgkjhgjkgfhblarg
blargh blargh with you hey hey yeah hey yeah
(i think this is an actual verse as opposed to random adlibs but i got nothing)
Shes a lightning bolt
never let her go
Shes a lightning bolt
never let her go
wehoo
JAAAMMMM
These are probably mostly wrong
Like force of nature with slightly less cheese maybe.
My Guess:
Crashing stormy waves
Erode her shoreline every day
Until the castle of her……turns to sand