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Re: Paul Thomas Anderson's Licorice Pizza (Nov. 26, 2021)
Posted: Wed September 29, 2021 1:13 pm
by tree_
E.H. Ruddock wrote:That looks tedious
you're crazy
Re: Paul Thomas Anderson's Licorice Pizza (Nov. 26, 2021)
Posted: Wed September 29, 2021 1:22 pm
by tragabigzanda
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.
Re: Paul Thomas Anderson's Licorice Pizza (Nov. 26, 2021)
Posted: Wed September 29, 2021 1:29 pm
by spike
E.H. Riddick
Re: Paul Thomas Anderson's Licorice Pizza (Nov. 26, 2021)
Posted: Wed September 29, 2021 1:40 pm
by dad
E.H. Ruddock wrote:That looks tittious
Re: Paul Thomas Anderson's Licorice Pizza (Nov. 26, 2021)
Posted: Wed September 29, 2021 1:49 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
tree_ wrote:E.H. Ruddock wrote:That looks tedious
you're crazy
That doesn't mean I think it will be bad.
Re: Paul Thomas Anderson's Licorice Pizza (Nov. 26, 2021)
Posted: Wed September 29, 2021 1:49 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
tragabigzanda wrote:Needs more vin diesel

Re: Paul Thomas Anderson's Licorice Pizza (Nov. 26, 2021)
Posted: Wed September 29, 2021 1:57 pm
by tree_
E.H. Ruddock wrote:tree_ wrote:E.H. Ruddock wrote:That looks tedious
you're crazy
That doesn't mean I think it will be bad.
te·di·ous
too long, slow, or dull; tiresome or monotonous.
sounds like a great time
Re: Paul Thomas Anderson's Licorice Pizza (Nov. 26, 2021)
Posted: Wed September 29, 2021 3:18 pm
by epilogue
E.H. Ruddock wrote:tree_ wrote:E.H. Ruddock wrote:That looks tedious
you're crazy
That doesn't mean I think it will be bad.
I'm kinda team Ruddo.
Of course, I'll see it. PTA has made some phenomenal films. And I want to wash the taste of Phantom Thread out of my mouth. I fully expect the movie to be better than that trailer.
Re: Paul Thomas Anderson's Licorice Pizza (Nov. 26, 2021)
Posted: Wed September 29, 2021 3:20 pm
by tragabigzanda
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.
Re: Paul Thomas Anderson's Licorice Pizza (Nov. 26, 2021)
Posted: Wed September 29, 2021 3:35 pm
by VinylGuy
epilogue wrote:E.H. Ruddock wrote:tree_ wrote:E.H. Ruddock wrote:That looks tedious
you're crazy
That doesn't mean I think it will be bad.
I'm kinda team Ruddo.
Of course, I'll see it. PTA has made some phenomenal films. And I want to wash the taste of Phantom Thread out of my mouth. I fully expect the movie to be better than that trailer.
Pff you didnt liked Phantom Thread? Its glorious.
Re: Paul Thomas Anderson's Licorice Pizza (Nov. 26, 2021)
Posted: Wed September 29, 2021 3:37 pm
by tragabigzanda
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.
Re: Paul Thomas Anderson's Licorice Pizza (Nov. 26, 2021)
Posted: Wed September 29, 2021 3:39 pm
by VinylGuy
Inherent Vice is another wonderful totally crazy movie. Have you read the book? Its impossible.
Phantom Thread is so fucking beautifully crafted, acted...the framing, the scope...the story is so fucking odd and great, and brave! imagine telling a toxic love story between two fucking crazy people these days...
Re: Paul Thomas Anderson's Licorice Pizza (Nov. 26, 2021)
Posted: Wed September 29, 2021 3:40 pm
by VinylGuy
From all his movies i would say Boogie Nights is the one its aged poorly. It shows its more of a product of its era.
Re: Paul Thomas Anderson's Licorice Pizza (Nov. 26, 2021)
Posted: Wed September 29, 2021 3:42 pm
by VinylGuy
tree_ wrote:i just realized that my baby is probably going to be born a few weeks before the release, which means i have no idea when i'm going to be able to see it

Also i just saw this. It just three hours maybe?
" Honey, i need to go to WHATEVER, ill come back later! ill bring some INSERT FOOD OPTION HERE"
done.
Re: Paul Thomas Anderson's Licorice Pizza (Nov. 26, 2021)
Posted: Wed September 29, 2021 3:43 pm
by tree_
I love Phantom Thread. I have the blu ray and watch it once every several months or so. The aesthetic is so great. I love the music, the colors, the sets, the clothes (and I'm not a clothes guy). I think the story isn't so crazy. It's also hilarious at times. Everyone sacrifices something in a relationship, it's good to be aware of what that thing is. Inherent Vice is his one movie I don't love. I barely love The Master. I find that one hard to watch sometimes.
Re: Paul Thomas Anderson's Licorice Pizza (Nov. 26, 2021)
Posted: Wed September 29, 2021 3:45 pm
by tree_
VinylGuy wrote:tree_ wrote:i just realized that my baby is probably going to be born a few weeks before the release, which means i have no idea when i'm going to be able to see it

Also i just saw this. It just three hours maybe?
" Honey, i need to go to WHATEVER, ill come back later! ill bring some INSERT FOOD OPTION HERE"
done.
I live in the woods. It's over an hour to the theater. Also, she LOVES going out to see a movie and wouldn't want me to go without her. It's been too long.
Re: Paul Thomas Anderson's Licorice Pizza (Nov. 26, 2021)
Posted: Wed September 29, 2021 4:26 pm
by epilogue
VinylGuy wrote:Inherent Vice is another wonderful totally crazy movie. Have you read the book? Its impossible.
Phantom Thread is so fucking beautifully crafted, acted...the framing, the scope...the story is so fucking odd and great, and brave! imagine telling a toxic love story between two fucking crazy people these days...
Either this post is shtick or it's the most confusing thing I've ever read.
Re: Paul Thomas Anderson's Licorice Pizza (Nov. 26, 2021)
Posted: Wed September 29, 2021 4:28 pm
by epilogue
There are things about Phantom Thread that I enjoyed. It is a beautiful looking film. But that's about all it has going for it. I'm not even all that enamored by the performances. Which is shocking given how much love and adoration I have for DDL.
Re: Paul Thomas Anderson's Licorice Pizza (Nov. 26, 2021)
Posted: Wed September 29, 2021 4:32 pm
by tree_
It's a beautiful, weird fever dream. You just have to let it intoxicate you and go with it. To be honest I'm pretty disappointed in you Joe. I thought this would be your kind of movie.
Re: Paul Thomas Anderson's Licorice Pizza (Nov. 26, 2021)
Posted: Wed September 29, 2021 4:34 pm
by epilogue
PTA is an interesting filmmaker but he's really hit/miss for me.
Hard Eight, Magnolia, Punch-Drunk Love, and The Master are outstanding films. A couple of them rank among the greatest American films I've seen.
There Will Be Blood is a pretty uninteresting and hollow film outside of DDL's otherworldly performance.
Boogie Nights and Phantom Thread are disposable. I haven't seen Inherent Vice.
But again, all of those movies have to things to like about them -- usually the cinematography or a performance or two. Though film is a visual medium, I tend to care more about character and story. So when a movie is gorgeous but the characters are terrible or the performances are lacking or the story is middling, then it doesn't resonant with me as strongly. No matter how pretty the thing is. I process art much more with my heart and my mind tends toward the literary. So the visual stuff, while I always appreciate it, isn't "the thing" for me most of the time.