Red Mosquito

stip wrote:And once was a hit, just not a single.

Was it? 1991 was a weird time for me; I was mostly too busy watching Ninja Turtles and being in 3rd grade to notice things like what songs were popular on the radio. Except for "Let's Talk About Sex" and Nelson's "After the Rain." For some reason I remember those.

I think "Rearviewmirror" is a damn solid collection in any case. I really like the flow of the second disc. I always breathe a little sigh of relief when "Elderly Woman" ends and goes into the beautiful arpeggiated introduction to "Immortality" instead of the primal testosterone-fueled wailing of "Leash."

it was in my market, at any rate. That could just be unique to here.

And I agree, RVM is pretty solid

stip wrote:it was in my market, at any rate. That could just be unique to here.

And I agree, RVM is pretty solid

New York?

There are definitely markets that had more expansive rock radio in the 90s than others. New York, Boston, Chicago, LA come to mind. They were all home to radio stations that pioneered the format, stations to which other markets looked to for programming cues.

Though, didn't KD grow up in the Chicago market? I'm not sure how far outside of the city he was.

yeah, back in the glory days where the NY/NJ market had at least 3 solid rock stations plus a classic rock station

Peoria is about 3 hours downstate from Chicago. We don't get any of their radio stations, though Q101 was well-known throughout the state at the time. Growing up we had mostly classic rock stations and one alternative station which started off extremely eclectic but over the years has basically just become a Stone Sour/Trapt/etc. showcase. There were a lot of generalized "modern music" stations that came and went, and those were usually your best shot at hearing PJ, but it was usually just the really big-name tracks. The aforementioned alternative station played a lot of PJ's deep cuts when it first came around, but since that was kind of their thing it was hard to tell how representative their choices were of widespread airplay.

Q101, that's the Chicago station I was thinking of.

Birds in Hell wrote:

cutuphalfdead wrote:I've never listened to this.

I bought it for the alternate mixes (Once, Alive, Black, State of Love and Trust, Who You Are, etc.)

There's an alternate Who You Re?? Is it much different?

Blenheim Augustine wrote:

Birds in Hell wrote:

cutuphalfdead wrote:I've never listened to this.

I bought it for the alternate mixes (Once, Alive, Black, State of Love and Trust, Who You Are, etc.)

There's an alternate Who You Re?? Is it much different?

From memory, it's a different vocal take with a couple of lyrical alterations.

I haven't heard it in years, though.

State of Love and Trust is the original Rick Parasher mix that's used in Singles, it was remixed by Brendan O'Brien for the soundtrack album.

Blenheim Augustine wrote:

Birds in Hell wrote:

cutuphalfdead wrote:I've never listened to this.

I bought it for the alternate mixes (Once, Alive, Black, State of Love and Trust, Who You Are, etc.)

There's an alternate Who You Re?? Is it much different?

i never even noticed that it was a different vocal take. Just one major lyrical difference was all I picked up on

stip wrote:

Blenheim Augustine wrote:

Birds in Hell wrote:

cutuphalfdead wrote:I've never listened to this.

I bought it for the alternate mixes (Once, Alive, Black, State of Love and Trust, Who You Are, etc.)

There's an alternate Who You Re?? Is it much different?

i never even noticed that it was a different vocal take. Just one major lyrical difference was all I picked up on

Oh, I don't know, it's been years since I listened to it - I just recall that there was some lyrical changes, so I presumed it was (at least partially) a different take.

Lament wrote:

bodysnatcher wrote:

Fuzzcharger wrote:

Lament wrote:

mikejasond wrote:Oh and it bothers me that Even Flow is some weird remix. Apparently according to wikipedia it's the single version but regardless it's not the version everybody knows and it's kind of lame that they put one of their top 3 hits as an alternate version.

It's the version that was in the very heavily aired music video and during their commercial peak you were just as likely to hear this version on the radio as you were the album version. It's pretty that likely that the "alternate" version is the one most fans heard first during the period when they gained the most new fans.

The Dave A version is vastly superior to the Ten album version. It's not a remix, it's a different recording.

where is that available?

God I miss Dave A.

I love the black remix on this, i can't even tell what they've done but it makes the ending even more powerful.

harmless wrote:

Lament wrote:

bodysnatcher wrote:

Fuzzcharger wrote:

Lament wrote:

mikejasond wrote:Oh and it bothers me that Even Flow is some weird remix. Apparently according to wikipedia it's the single version but regardless it's not the version everybody knows and it's kind of lame that they put one of their top 3 hits as an alternate version.

It's the version that was in the very heavily aired music video and during their commercial peak you were just as likely to hear this version on the radio as you were the album version. It's pretty that likely that the "alternate" version is the one most fans heard first during the period when they gained the most new fans.

The Dave A version is vastly superior to the Ten album version. It's not a remix, it's a different recording.

where is that available?

God I miss Dave A.

Lament wrote:

mikejasond wrote:Oh and it bothers me that Even Flow is some weird remix. Apparently according to wikipedia it's the single version but regardless it's not the version everybody knows and it's kind of lame that they put one of their top 3 hits as an alternate version.

It's the version that was in the very heavily aired music video and during their commercial peak you were just as likely to hear this version on the radio as you were the album version. It's pretty that likely that the "alternate" version is the one most fans heard first during the period when they gained the most new fans.

Perhaps it's because it was the version I was first familiar with but I much prefer the Dave Krusen take of Even Flow (ie. the album cut) to the single version.

For that matter, despite really enjoying Abbruzzese's playing on Vs and Vitalogy, I'm rather glad Krusen stuck around long enough to play on Ten. There's a laidback and unobtrusive groove to his playing that gives the material a really different feel than it would have if Dave's thundering flash was all over it.

Birds in Hell wrote:

Lament wrote:

mikejasond wrote:Oh and it bothers me that Even Flow is some weird remix. Apparently according to wikipedia it's the single version but regardless it's not the version everybody knows and it's kind of lame that they put one of their top 3 hits as an alternate version.

It's the version that was in the very heavily aired music video and during their commercial peak you were just as likely to hear this version on the radio as you were the album version. It's pretty that likely that the "alternate" version is the one most fans heard first during the period when they gained the most new fans.

Perhaps it's because it was the version I was first familiar with but I much prefer the Dave Krusen take of Even Flow (ie. the album cut) to the single version.

For that matter, despite really enjoying Abbruzzese's playing on Vs and Vitalogy, I'm rather glad Krusen stuck around long enough to play on Ten. There's a laidback and unobtrusive groove to his playing that gives the material a really different feel than it would have if Dave's thundering flash was all over it.

Agreed. Dave A is a bro drummer

I might enjoy Dave K more if Ten's drums had been mixed differently. I don't think it was appropriate to his style. They went for a more metallic Dave A. style production because of the nature of the album, when a more natural style a la Jack Irons would've suited more. Dave K had the laid back sloppiness of Jack Irons mixed with a little bit of the funk of Dave A.

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Saw that earlier and wasn't sure it was legit.

Weird that they split it up into 2 volumes.

Dont need it but kind of tempted for collection purposes.

Couldn't they have made my copy of Earthling out of that vinyl?

Strat wrote:Saw that earlier and wasn't sure it was legit.

Weird that they split it up into 2 volumes.

Dont need it but kind of tempted for collection purposes.

You can have mine