Red Mosquito

Why won't Argo release his PMs? What's he hiding?

Wait is Argo a Mossad agent?

I don't know

Doesn't he work with files and such?

Burt, can you walk us through the concept of ressintement?

washing machine wrote:Burt, can you walk us through the concept of ressintement?

Ressentiment is a somewhat amorphous term with different interpretations of what it really means, but my understanding is this:

Whereas resentment is a feeling of hatred for the powerful, ressentiment is a term describing the broader process that derives from that initial resentment, on both a personal and social level.

In short: When there is a competition over some good, the loser (the weak) becomes envious of the winner (the strong). This painful feeling of envy can not be overcome by taking the good for himself or enacting revenge on the winner. So he has to develop a new way to discharge his frustration.

Through a certain process, this feeling of resentment is turned away from its original cause (the strong) and turns inward on the weak himself, giving rise to feelings of self hatred, which in turn gives rise to an all new society.

Through the same process, the loser develops a new worldview in which he convinces himself (and hopefully the winner as well) that the good was not valuable at all, and in fact, not having the good is the real "moral" value.

On a social level, this gives rise to an entirely new value system (slave morality), where previous values are inverted. The old, "natural" good/bad value system is exchanged for a new, reactive value system based on good and evil. Older, life affirming values like strength, pride or self assertion are reimagined as sin, and they are exchanged for values like humility, poverty or obedience. This is the root of the Abrahamic religions and the modern day values we take as a given.

Thanks. I'm digging in to Genealogy of Morality, but Nietzsche is dense writing.

(Mods please feel free to move this to philosophy thread.)

Is it alpha to workout in jeans?

Dev wrote:Is it alpha to workout in jeans?

Extremely. It asserts dominance.

washing machine wrote:Thanks. I'm digging in to Genealogy of Morality, but Nietzsche is dense writing.

(Mods please feel free to move this to philosophy thread.)

It's probably one of the harder ones. It's the closest he ever comes to a systematic, academic work.

Something like Beyond Good and Evil or Human All Too Human are easier I think. Mostly just little aphorisms around general themes.


TLDR: Ressentiment is resentment turned back on the self, and the consequences of that.

BurtReynolds wrote:

washing machine wrote:Thanks. I'm digging in to Genealogy of Morality, but Nietzsche is dense writing.

(Mods please feel free to move this to philosophy thread.)

It's probably one of the harder ones. It's the closest he ever comes to a systematic, academic work.

Something like Beyond Good and Evil or Human All Too Human are easier I think. Mostly just little aphorisms around general themes.


TLDR: Ressentiment is resentment turned inward on the self, and the consequences of that.

Interesting, thank you.

BurtReynolds wrote:

washing machine wrote:Burt, can you walk us through the concept of ressintement?

Ressentiment is a somewhat amorphous term with different interpretations of what it really means, but my understanding is this:

Whereas resentment is a feeling of hatred for the powerful, ressentiment is a term describing the broader process that derives from that initial resentment, on both a personal and social level.

In short: When there is a competition over some good, the loser (the weak) becomes envious of the winner (the strong). This painful feeling of envy can not be overcome by taking the good for himself or enacting revenge on the winner. So he has to develop a new way to discharge his frustration.

Through a certain process, this feeling of resentment is turned away from its original cause (the strong) and turns inward on the weak himself, giving rise to feelings of self hatred, which in turn gives rise to an all new society.

Through the same process, the loser develops a new worldview in which he convinces himself (and hopefully the winner as well) that the good was not valuable at all, and in fact, not having the good is the real "moral" value.

On a social level, this gives rise to an entirely new value system (slave morality), where previous values are inverted. The old, "natural" good/bad value system is exchanged for a new, reactive value system based on good and evil. Older, life affirming values like strength, pride or self assertion are reimagined as sin, and they are exchanged for values like humility, poverty or obedience. This is the root of the Abrahamic religions and the modern day values we take as a given.

BurtGPT

“In short” then there are 4 paragraphs…

When four paragraphs are considered long reading, you know our attention spans are cooked.

Any GD post over like five sentences really needs to end either with peeps shitting himself or PMA getting ripped off by a hooker.

bart wrote:Any GD post over like five sentences really needs to end either with peeps shitting himself or PMA getting ripped off by a hooker.

bart wrote:Any GD post over like five sentences really needs to end either with peeps shitting himself or PMA getting ripped off by a hooker.

That was Samwise, dawg. PMA wrote the novel about coming out as gay. Nobody cared.

Who told the Fox the Sox story? That was a good one.

Ello Sailor wrote:

bart wrote:Any GD post over like five sentences really needs to end either with peeps shitting himself or PMA getting ripped off by a hooker.

That was Samwise, dawg. PMA wrote the novel about coming out as gay. Nobody cared.

Oh man my brain had completely merged them into one poster. Having a reverse fight club moment over here

bart wrote:

Ello Sailor wrote:

bart wrote:Any GD post over like five sentences really needs to end either with peeps shitting himself or PMA getting ripped off by a hooker.

That was Samwise, dawg. PMA wrote the novel about coming out as gay. Nobody cared.

Oh man my brain had completely merged them into one poster. Having a reverse fight club moment over here

i dont know if i should be proud you didnt mix up my fear of shitting myself with someone else. another unusual fear i have is my steering wheel coming off in the middle of a bridge