Red Mosquito

Exaggerated and Dramatic is what the internet is for, dammit.

correct me if I'm wrong, but I seem to remember the band, minus Ed, worked on a lot of the songs on backspacer separately, then Ed and Bob put their evil magic on it. I feel like the band had no idea what BS turned out to be, but went with it anyway because they are weak. WEAK!

BurtReynolds wrote:correct me if I'm wrong, but I seem to remember the band, minus Ed, worked on a lot of the songs on backspacer separately, then Ed and Bob put their evil magic on it. I feel like the band had no idea what BS turned out to be, but went with it anyway because they are weak. WEAK!

VinylGuy wrote:

BurtReynolds wrote:correct me if I'm wrong, but I seem to remember the band, minus Ed, worked on a lot of the songs on backspacer separately, then Ed and Bob put their evil magic on it. I feel like the band had no idea what BS turned out to be, but went with it anyway because they are weak. WEAK!

WEAK I TELL THEE.

BOB ran over my puppy and used his bones as keys on his EVIL CHEESE PIANO. Fuck that guy.

There is the bar in GR called The Bob. There is a stairwell that goes up to a 4th floor balcony. It took 3 people falling over the railing to their deaths before they decided to fix the low railings.

Thejambi wrote:There is the bar in GR called The Bob. There is a stairwell that goes up to a 4th floor balcony. It took 3 people falling over the railing to their deaths before they decided to fix the low railings.

Fuck that place. Fuck that guy. I'm depressed.

harmless wrote:

Thejambi wrote:There is the bar in GR called The Bob. There is a stairwell that goes up to a 4th floor balcony. It took 3 people falling over the railing to their deaths before they decided to fix the low railings.

Fuck that place. Fuck that guy. I'm depressed.

All since 2009..... Hmmmm

The humptyyyyy dance is your chaaaance to do the hump

Thejambi wrote:

harmless wrote:

Thejambi wrote:There is the bar in GR called The Bob. There is a stairwell that goes up to a 4th floor balcony. It took 3 people falling over the railing to their deaths before they decided to fix the low railings.

Fuck that place. Fuck that guy. I'm depressed.

All since 2009..... Hmmmm

harmless wrote:

Farmer John wrote:

harmless wrote:You guys have been in my 'Other Bands' thread about the new Brendan O'Brien and Brandon Boyd collab, right? That's the kind of producer O'Brien is. He wants some of the limelight. Why do you think he played a stupid keyboard part on FD?

Maybe they asked him to.

Maybe. Maybe they just said he could. Who knows?

Maybe he sugested it and they said sure whatever.

Man, I had high hopes for this thread because it's a worthy discussion.

Like someone mentioned before, producers act like gatekeepers and steer the band one way or another and influence arrangements. BoB does seem to interject himself a little more now, but I always thought that was because Boom has been banned to Hawaii during recording sessions and BoB is the most accomplished pianist the room. More and more PJ songs are built for piano/organ, so it makes sense. If the band didn't like his keys, they either didn't say it or they don't want to fight to get it back again.

I have quibbles with little things here and there, but here are some items I have loathed about BoB:

1. Doesn't care about the loudness of the music
2. The remix of Ten is unlistenable to me
3. Stupid piano bridge in "The Fixer"
4. Speed of Sound arrangement
5. ProTools editing of "Gonna See My Friend" is shoddy, probably the same with "Mind Your Manners"

As per point 1, I'm not positive how much blame goes on O'Brien because a lot of the extreme loudness (aural fatigue) comes from mastering, whereas Gateway Mastering I think has done most of the PJ albums (including Avocado). Gateway also did the Vs/Vitalogy reissues that are also hard to listen to. The unmastered Avocado songs give us a glimpse that the last two albums could have sounded far better.

Mine wrote:

harmless wrote:

Farmer John wrote:

harmless wrote:You guys have been in my 'Other Bands' thread about the new Brendan O'Brien and Brandon Boyd collab, right? That's the kind of producer O'Brien is. He wants some of the limelight. Why do you think he played a stupid keyboard part on FD?

Maybe they asked him to.

Maybe. Maybe they just said he could. Who knows?

Maybe he sugested it and they said sure whatever.

Maybe. Or they could something else.

VinylGuy wrote:

BurtReynolds wrote:correct me if I'm wrong, but I seem to remember the band, minus Ed, worked on a lot of the songs on backspacer separately, then Ed and Bob put their evil magic on it. I feel like the band had no idea what BS turned out to be, but went with it anyway because they are weak. WEAK!

nomorecrackpipes wrote:Man, I had high hopes for this thread because it's a worthy discussion.

Like someone mentioned before, producers act like gatekeepers and steer the band one way or another and influence arrangements. BoB does seem to interject himself a little more now, but I always thought that was because Boom has been banned to Hawaii during recording sessions and BoB is the most accomplished pianist the room. More and more PJ songs are built for piano/organ, so it makes sense. If the band didn't like his keys, they either didn't say it or they don't want to fight to get it back again.

I have quibbles with little things here and there, but here are some items I have loathed about BoB:

1. Doesn't care about the loudness of the music
2. The remix of Ten is unlistenable to me
3. Stupid piano bridge in "The Fixer"
4. Speed of Sound arrangement
5. ProTools editing of "Gonna See My Friend" is shoddy, probably the same with "Mind Your Manners"

As per point 1, I'm not positive how much blame goes on O'Brien because a lot of the extreme loudness (aural fatigue) comes from mastering, whereas Gateway Mastering I think has done most of the PJ albums (including Avocado). Gateway also did the Vs/Vitalogy reissues that are also hard to listen to. The unmastered Avocado songs give us a glimpse that the last two albums could have sounded far better.

Interesting. Thank you.

Also:

McParadigm wrote:

VinylGuy wrote:

BurtReynolds wrote:correct me if I'm wrong, but I seem to remember the band, minus Ed, worked on a lot of the songs on backspacer separately, then Ed and Bob put their evil magic on it. I feel like the band had no idea what BS turned out to be, but went with it anyway because they are weak. WEAK!

That gif is awesome.

Also, the BO'B vitriol is winning out.

I didn't think BOB had anything to do with Self Titled.

nomorecrackpipes wrote:Man, I had high hopes for this thread because it's a worthy discussion.

Like someone mentioned before, producers act like gatekeepers and steer the band one way or another and influence arrangements. BoB does seem to interject himself a little more now, but I always thought that was because Boom has been banned to Hawaii during recording sessions and BoB is the most accomplished pianist the room. More and more PJ songs are built for piano/organ, so it makes sense. If the band didn't like his keys, they either didn't say it or they don't want to fight to get it back again.

I have quibbles with little things here and there, but here are some items I have loathed about BoB:

1. Doesn't care about the loudness of the music
2. The remix of Ten is unlistenable to me
3. Stupid piano bridge in "The Fixer"
4. Speed of Sound arrangement
5. ProTools editing of "Gonna See My Friend" is shoddy, probably the same with "Mind Your Manners"

As per point 1, I'm not positive how much blame goes on O'Brien because a lot of the extreme loudness (aural fatigue) comes from mastering, whereas Gateway Mastering I think has done most of the PJ albums (including Avocado). Gateway also did the Vs/Vitalogy reissues that are also hard to listen to. The unmastered Avocado songs give us a glimpse that the last two albums could have sounded far better.

Nomorecrackpipes ftw!

Taking the reigns and steering the ship!

Hatfield wrote:

nomorecrackpipes wrote:Man, I had high hopes for this thread because it's a worthy discussion.

Like someone mentioned before, producers act like gatekeepers and steer the band one way or another and influence arrangements. BoB does seem to interject himself a little more now, but I always thought that was because Boom has been banned to Hawaii during recording sessions and BoB is the most accomplished pianist the room. More and more PJ songs are built for piano/organ, so it makes sense. If the band didn't like his keys, they either didn't say it or they don't want to fight to get it back again.

I have quibbles with little things here and there, but here are some items I have loathed about BoB:

1. Doesn't care about the loudness of the music
2. The remix of Ten is unlistenable to me
3. Stupid piano bridge in "The Fixer"
4. Speed of Sound arrangement
5. ProTools editing of "Gonna See My Friend" is shoddy, probably the same with "Mind Your Manners"

As per point 1, I'm not positive how much blame goes on O'Brien because a lot of the extreme loudness (aural fatigue) comes from mastering, whereas Gateway Mastering I think has done most of the PJ albums (including Avocado). Gateway also did the Vs/Vitalogy reissues that are also hard to listen to. The unmastered Avocado songs give us a glimpse that the last two albums could have sounded far better.

Nomorecrackpipes ftw!

Taking the reigns and steering the ship!

LOVE BOAT CRACKPIPE