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Re: Johnny Depp vs. Amber Heard

Posted: Fri April 22, 2022 8:00 pm
by Ms Harmless
I have absolutely zero doubt that Depp would have had more power and resources to leave that relationship than Heard did

Re: Johnny Depp vs. Amber Heard

Posted: Fri April 22, 2022 8:00 pm
by VinylGuy
i dont really know.

Re: Johnny Depp vs. Amber Heard

Posted: Fri April 22, 2022 8:01 pm
by Ms Harmless
VinylGuy wrote:
tree_ wrote:He also "joked" in texts with his friends about wanting to choke and drown her to death and then "F" her corpse to be sure the "witch" is dead
Those are awful texts, but thats all they are.
wow OK

Re: Johnny Depp vs. Amber Heard

Posted: Fri April 22, 2022 8:05 pm
by VinylGuy
Anyone can point out at a gross text and say ¨this guy is awful¨
Im sure any of us has a distastful text not only from now but from 10 years ago.

Re: Johnny Depp vs. Amber Heard

Posted: Fri April 22, 2022 8:05 pm
by tree_
They both had sufficient power to leave the relationship. When you don't have money or resources is when you're really stuck.

Re: Johnny Depp vs. Amber Heard

Posted: Fri April 22, 2022 8:06 pm
by VinylGuy
tree_ wrote:They both had sufficient power to leave the relationship. When you don't have money or resources is when you're really stuck.
yeah, i agree

Re: Johnny Depp vs. Amber Heard

Posted: Fri April 22, 2022 8:06 pm
by dad
tree_ wrote:They both had sufficient power to leave the relationship. When you don't have money or resources is when you're really stuck.
or maybe when you don't have agency.

Re: Johnny Depp vs. Amber Heard

Posted: Fri April 22, 2022 8:07 pm
by Jorge
dad wrote:
tree_ wrote:They both had sufficient power to leave the relationship. When you don't have money or resources is when you're really stuck.
or maybe when you don't have agency.
They are both represented by William Morris

Re: Johnny Depp vs. Amber Heard

Posted: Fri April 22, 2022 8:08 pm
by tree_
jorge's on fire today!

Re: Johnny Depp vs. Amber Heard

Posted: Fri April 22, 2022 8:09 pm
by dad
Jorge wrote:
dad wrote:
tree_ wrote:They both had sufficient power to leave the relationship. When you don't have money or resources is when you're really stuck.
or maybe when you don't have agency.
They are both represented by William Morris
oh you...

Re: Johnny Depp vs. Amber Heard

Posted: Fri April 22, 2022 8:11 pm
by Ms Harmless
tree_ wrote:They both had sufficient power to leave the relationship. When you don't have money or resources is when you're really stuck.
no, that's a big factor but only one factor of many; a lot of people here reduce power to money or the lack of it, so does Ed Ved

Re: Johnny Depp vs. Amber Heard

Posted: Fri April 22, 2022 8:12 pm
by Ms Harmless
VinylGuy wrote:Anyone can point out at a gross text and say ¨this guy is awful¨
Im sure any of us has a distastful text not only from now but from 10 years ago.
uuuuh not that kind of gross

Re: Johnny Depp vs. Amber Heard

Posted: Fri April 22, 2022 8:18 pm
by Ms Harmless
I don't think "why didn't they just leave" is ever an appropriate question in an abuse situation

Re: Johnny Depp vs. Amber Heard

Posted: Fri April 22, 2022 8:19 pm
by tree_
Ms Harmless wrote:
tree_ wrote:They both had sufficient power to leave the relationship. When you don't have money or resources is when you're really stuck.
no, that's a big factor but only one factor of many; a lot of people here reduce power to money or the lack of it, so does Ed Ved
that's all I was saying. of course there's more to it

Re: Johnny Depp vs. Amber Heard

Posted: Fri April 22, 2022 8:23 pm
by dad
Ms Harmless wrote:I don't think "why didn't they just leave" is ever an appropriate questionnaire in an abuse situation
it's definitely an old-school mentality.

Re: Johnny Depp vs. Amber Heard

Posted: Fri April 22, 2022 8:24 pm
by tree_
Well, when you ask that question, the answers are what guide you to the reasons. So it's a good question if you don't know why.

Re: Johnny Depp vs. Amber Heard

Posted: Fri April 22, 2022 8:25 pm
by Ms Harmless
dad wrote:
Ms Harmless wrote:I don't think "why didn't they just leave" is ever an appropriate questionnaire in an abuse situation
it's definitely an old-school mentality.
lol I really just wrote "questionnaire"

Re: Johnny Depp vs. Amber Heard

Posted: Fri April 22, 2022 8:28 pm
by dad
tree_ wrote:Well, when you ask that question, the answers are what guide you to the reasons. So it's a good question if you don't know why.
i think asking someone in an abusive relationship why they don't leave is a bad idea. it's essentially shaming that person.

Re: Johnny Depp vs. Amber Heard

Posted: Fri April 22, 2022 8:28 pm
by dad
Ms Harmless wrote:
dad wrote:
Ms Harmless wrote:I don't think "why didn't they just leave" is ever an appropriate questionnaire in an abuse situation
it's definitely an old-school mentality.
lol I really just wrote "questionnaire"
i knew what you meant :)

Re: Johnny Depp vs. Amber Heard

Posted: Fri April 22, 2022 8:30 pm
by Ms Harmless
tree_ wrote:Well, when you ask that question, the answers are what guide you to the reasons. So it's a good question if you don't know why.
I think abuse victims are quite beyond trying to convince people of why they couldn't leave; it's very far down the list of pertinent questions in this case, imo

it's also disingenuous to assume people are asking that question in good faith, just to "get to the bottom of the situation"; people asking it, the overwhelming majority of the time, are implying that one or both parties somehow made the choice to keep experiencing abuse, and that they would not have