Red Mosquito

Or just leave the band.

harmless wrote:Or just leave the band.

alternatively, the band could something else

stip wrote:there's no pride in finding ways to clear a bar that low, stupidmop

i should have quoted you. I was just saying that even if the mohawk was better than the explanation they were both so horrible who cares.

I think a better question is which current bands will be in this category within the next let's say 15 years.

To me, the list includes:

Arcade Fire
My Morning Jacket
Coldplay
Kings of Leon
Incubus
Silversun Pickups (hopeful, but reaching here)
Temper Trap (same)
Black Keys

Any others?

stip wrote:

stip wrote:there's no pride in finding ways to clear a bar that low, stupidmop

i should have quoted you. I was just saying that even if the mohawk was better than the explanation they were both so horrible who cares.

Agreed. Though the Mohawk explanation might be the biggest eyeroll I've ever given something ed has said, and he says a lot of stupid shit.

ccanad wrote:I think a better question is which current bands will be in this category within the next let's say 15 years.

To me, the list includes:

Arcade Fire
My Morning Jacket
Coldplay
Kings of Leon
Incubus
Silversun Pickups (hopeful, but reaching here)
Temper Trap (same)
Black Keys

Any others?

The only band here that I can see being part of the same heavy-weight category as the bands in the OP is Coldplay.

ccanad wrote:I think a better question is which current bands will be in this category within the next let's say 15 years.

To me, the list includes:

Arcade Fire
My Morning Jacket
Coldplay
Kings of Leon
Incubus
Silversun Pickups (hopeful, but reaching here)
Temper Trap (same)
Black Keys

Any others?

Sigur Ros

Heathen wrote:

ccanad wrote:I think a better question is which current bands will be in this category within the next let's say 15 years.

To me, the list includes:

Arcade Fire
My Morning Jacket
Coldplay
Kings of Leon
Incubus
Silversun Pickups (hopeful, but reaching here)
Temper Trap (same)
Black Keys

Any others?

The only band here that I can see being part of the same heavy-weight category as the bands in the OP is Coldplay.

I think Arcade Fire should make it, and Kings of Leon might if they stay interesting for long enough. Incubus totally blew their chance with the last album.

I always thought this was pretty cool:

I think a band being missed as peers is Blink-182. They've been around for 20+ years, 8 albums, still tour, stable band line up and everyone has side projects.

I think of the newer bands that Arcade Fire is most like PJ.

ccanad wrote:I think a better question is which current bands will be in this category within the next let's say 15 years.

To me, the list includes:

Arcade Fire
My Morning Jacket
Coldplay
Kings of Leon
Incubus
Silversun Pickups (hopeful, but reaching here)
Temper Trap (same)
Black Keys

Any others?

The Killers are more likely to be in it than any band on this list with the exception of Coldplay.

Actually, The Killers are the post-Pearl Jam band who's career trajectory most seems to resemble Pearl Jam's. A moment of zeitgeist debut album that crossed over and yielded several hits that remain in regular rotation almost a decade later. Subsequent albums that have shown creative growth at the expense of their commercial appeal, yet strengthened the resolve of the die-hard segment of their fanbase. If you asked 100 random music fans on the street what each band's best album was, 85 would say the first one. If you asked 100 die hard fans of each band what their best album was, probably 15 would say the first one. Big enough to draw huge crowds in every city, and always at the top of festival bills, yet out of the public consciousness enough that when they come to town it's not a "big deal." Both bands had undeniable influence on alternative music, but both were "uncool" enough that you didn't hear a lot of musicians siting them (the way they do with Nirvana or Alice In Chains or the Strokes or Interpol). The Killers right now strike me as being in a similar place to Pearl Jam circa-1998 or so.

I dunno. Shooting from the hip here, but it makes sense in my mind.

Besides a few songs on their first album, I fucking hate the Killers.

Lament wrote:Actually, The Killers are the post-Pearl Jam band who's career trajectory most seems to resemble Pearl Jam's. A moment of zeitgeist debut album that crossed over and yielded several hits that remain in regular rotation almost a decade later. Subsequent albums that have shown creative growth at the expense of their commercial appeal, yet strengthened the resolve of the die-hard segment of their fanbase. If you asked 100 random music fans on the street what each band's best album was, 85 would say the first one. If you asked 100 die hard fans of each band what their best album was, probably 15 would say the first one. Big enough to draw huge crowds in every city, and always at the top of festival bills, yet out of the public consciousness enough that when they come to town it's not a "big deal." Both bands had undeniable influence on alternative music, but both were "uncool" enough that you didn't hear a lot of musicians siting them (the way they do with Nirvana or Alice In Chains or the Strokes or Interpol). The Killers right now strike me as being in a similar place to Pearl Jam circa-1998 or so.

I dunno. Shooting from the hip here, but it makes sense in my mind.

With the caveat that I've not really listened to any Killers since the first album, these seem like good comparisons.

cutuphalfdead wrote:Besides a few songs on their first album, I fucking hate the Killers.

That sounds a lot like most people's response to me in the late 90's/early 00's when I told them about how much I loved Pearl Jam.

Lament wrote:

cutuphalfdead wrote:Besides a few songs on their first album, I fucking hate the Killers.

That sounds a lot like most people's response to me in the late 90's/early 00's when I told them about how much I loved Pearl Jam.

Yeah, but Pearl Jam's subsequent albums didn't suck.

Lament wrote:

cutuphalfdead wrote:Besides a few songs on their first album, I fucking hate the Killers.

That sounds a lot like most people's response to me in the late 90's/early 00's when I told them about how much I loved Pearl Jam.

Are The Killers even in the same category? I mean, who the fuck are they anyway?

are we human












or are we dancer

Heathen wrote:

Lament wrote:

cutuphalfdead wrote:Besides a few songs on their first album, I fucking hate the Killers.

That sounds a lot like most people's response to me in the late 90's/early 00's when I told them about how much I loved Pearl Jam.

Are The Killers even in the same category? I mean, who the fuck are they anyway?

I don't think Killers are in the same category just because they weren't part of a megalithic movement like 'grunge'. They've never been icons of anything, except for maybe douchebag hipsterism.

theplatypus wrote:are we human












or are we dancer

Whenever I hear that song I answer the question in my head: 'definitely dancer.'