I have no problem banning you now

[Anders]

I think also in the thread Trag started.

[tragabigzanda]

There is a wolf in me . . . fangs pointed for tearing gashes . . . a red tongue for raw meat . . . and the hot lapping of blood—I keep this wolf because the wilderness gave it to me and the wilderness will not let it go.

There is a fox in me . . . a silver-gray fox . . . I sniff and guess . . . I pick things out of the wind and air . . . I nose in the dark night and take sleepers and eat them and hide the feathers . . . I circle and loop and double-cross.

There is a hog in me . . . a snout and a belly . . . a machinery for eating and grunting . . . a machinery for sleeping satisfied in the sun—I got this too from the wilderness and the wilderness will not let it go.

There is a fish in me . . . I know I came from salt-blue water-gates . . . I scurried with shoals of herring . . . I blew waterspouts with porpoises . . . before land was . . . before the water went down . . . before Noah . . . before the first chapter of Genesis.

There is a baboon in me . . . clambering-clawed . . . dog-faced . . . yawping a galoot's hunger . . . hairy under the armpits . . . here are the hawk-eyed hankering men . . . here are the blonde and blue-eyed women . . . here they hide curled asleep waiting . . . ready to snarl and kill . . . ready to sing and give milk . . . waiting—I keep the baboon because the wilderness says so.

There is an eagle in me and a mockingbird . . . and the eagle flies among the Rocky Mountains of my dreams and fights among the Sierra crags of what I want . . . and the mockingbird warbles in the early forenoon before the dew is gone, warbles in the underbrush of my Chattanoogas of hope, gushes over the blue Ozark foothills of my wishes—And I got the eagle and the mockingbird from the wilderness.

O, I got a zoo, I got a menagerie, inside my ribs, under my bony head, under my red-valve heart—and I got something else: it is a man-child heart, a woman-child heart: it is a father and mother and lover: it came from God-Knows-Where: it is going to God-Knows-Where—For I am the keeper of the zoo: I say yes and no: I sing and kill and work: I am a pal of the world: I came from the wilderness.

[Anders]

anders please point to the homophobic posts so we can settle this

We should really be asking Dime

Agreed. Very little humor offends me personally, but I have understanding for a gay man being offended by lots of jokes about being gay.

Words cannot express how idiotic and destructive this mindset is.

This is the first time we have ever disagreed. How interesting.

[BurtReynolds]

Is it fair to say that 24683488up vanquished dime? He deserves some kind of reward for that.

[tommy]

Is it fair to say that 24683488up vanquished dime? He deserves some kind of reward for that.

Honestly I think it was Trag. His gay food thread seems to be what set Dime off.

[tommy]

9up maybe gets credit for vanquishing Dev, but you could easily argue that Dev vanquished himself by being unable to chill out.

[Anders]

While I completely understand the impulse to empathize without anyone who is marginalized, I think there's a pretty clear and consistent benchmark of dime being very antagonistic himself, as well as leading the charge on "gay humor", however you might define that.

1. Agreed
2. Agreed
3. I think there is a difference in whatever I have seen him post about it, more self humor. Lighthearted. Positive.

[tragabigzanda]

There is a wolf in me . . . fangs pointed for tearing gashes . . . a red tongue for raw meat . . . and the hot lapping of blood—I keep this wolf because the wilderness gave it to me and the wilderness will not let it go.

There is a fox in me . . . a silver-gray fox . . . I sniff and guess . . . I pick things out of the wind and air . . . I nose in the dark night and take sleepers and eat them and hide the feathers . . . I circle and loop and double-cross.

There is a hog in me . . . a snout and a belly . . . a machinery for eating and grunting . . . a machinery for sleeping satisfied in the sun—I got this too from the wilderness and the wilderness will not let it go.

There is a fish in me . . . I know I came from salt-blue water-gates . . . I scurried with shoals of herring . . . I blew waterspouts with porpoises . . . before land was . . . before the water went down . . . before Noah . . . before the first chapter of Genesis.

There is a baboon in me . . . clambering-clawed . . . dog-faced . . . yawping a galoot's hunger . . . hairy under the armpits . . . here are the hawk-eyed hankering men . . . here are the blonde and blue-eyed women . . . here they hide curled asleep waiting . . . ready to snarl and kill . . . ready to sing and give milk . . . waiting—I keep the baboon because the wilderness says so.

There is an eagle in me and a mockingbird . . . and the eagle flies among the Rocky Mountains of my dreams and fights among the Sierra crags of what I want . . . and the mockingbird warbles in the early forenoon before the dew is gone, warbles in the underbrush of my Chattanoogas of hope, gushes over the blue Ozark foothills of my wishes—And I got the eagle and the mockingbird from the wilderness.

O, I got a zoo, I got a menagerie, inside my ribs, under my bony head, under my red-valve heart—and I got something else: it is a man-child heart, a woman-child heart: it is a father and mother and lover: it came from God-Knows-Where: it is going to God-Knows-Where—For I am the keeper of the zoo: I say yes and no: I sing and kill and work: I am a pal of the world: I came from the wilderness.

[Jorge]

Is it fair to say that 24683488up vanquished dime? He deserves some kind of reward for that.

Honestly I think it was Trag. His gay food thread seems to be what set Dime off.

But only after Dev bumped it. So you could say Dev vanquished Dime, 9UP (if banning 9UP was a response to the gay stuff), and himself

[tommy]

Is it fair to say that 24683488up vanquished dime? He deserves some kind of reward for that.

Honestly I think it was Trag. His gay food thread seems to be what set Dime off.

But only after Dev bumped it. So you could say Dev vanquished Dime, 9UP (if banning 9UP was a response to the gay stuff), and himself

Ah, I thought it was a new thread. You are correct.

[Anders]

While I completely understand the impulse to empathize without anyone who is marginalized, I think there's a pretty clear and consistent benchmark of dime being very antagonistic himself, as well as leading the charge on "gay humor", however you might define that.

1. Agreed
2. Agreed
3. I think there is a difference in whatever I have seen him post about it, more self humor. Lighthearted. Positive.

Even #3 that were true, the hardcore gay sex pics will make it difficult to tow that line going forward.

The pic was not 3, it was an angry response to being offended, and the mods doing nothing about it.

[bart]

this is outrageous

[tommy]

this is outrageous

Please don't fly off the handle

[coptheriotact]

I thought the joke was in the “soy” part

[tommy]

I thought the joke was in the “soy” part

In which case it's Soma who should be offended.

[Ello Sailor]

Got my estrogen-producing ass.

[lennytheweedwhacker]

ban this

*points at crotch*

[The Argonaut]

We've figured out dime was banned for posting naked willies and johnsons. Why was dev banned, what did he do?

[spike]

Is it fair to say that 24683488up vanquished dime? He deserves some kind of reward for that.

Honestly I think it was Trag. His gay food thread seems to be what set Dime off.

But only after Dev bumped it. So you could say Dev vanquished Dime, 9UP (if banning 9UP was a response to the gay stuff), and himself

No, you had it right earlier. Dime shared a desire to be banned, so he took matters into his own hands. Perhaps N&D will be readable again.

[spike]

anyway, at least this episode seems to have made ruddo less of a waffler. time to DOGE this place.