Re: Top 25 Favorite Movies
Posted: Thu October 29, 2015 3:41 am
LV, I'm afraid to axe this question, but are you not a Tarkovsky fan?
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.
I find them in no way similar, but alright. And The Master to me is roughly ten times more interesting. TWBB is well done but I've never gotten much out of it.tragabigzanda wrote:Please, The Master is like watching the narrative themes of There Will Be Blood boiled down to their primal elements. It's an expertly-shot, incredibly-acted idea of a film.
Fair enough. Based on your favorites I guess I wouldn't really expect you to be a big fan.LoathedVermin72 wrote:And I am not a Tarkovsky fan. I like Stalker but have disliked everything else I've seen. I do really wanna see Andrei Rublev, though. Just haven't committed the time yet.
Yeah I really don't see many parallels between the two.Orpheus wrote:I find them in no way similar, but alright. And The Master to me is roughly ten times more interesting. TWBB is well done but I've never gotten much out of it.tragabigzanda wrote:Please, The Master is like watching the narrative themes of There Will Be Blood boiled down to their primal elements. It's an expertly-shot, incredibly-acted idea of a film.
I love The Master and I'm not crazy about TWBB, but then again I liked Inherent Vice so what do I know.Orpheus wrote:I find them in no way similar, but alright. And The Master to me is roughly ten times more interesting. TWBB is well done but I've never gotten much out of it.tragabigzanda wrote:Please, The Master is like watching the narrative themes of There Will Be Blood boiled down to their primal elements. It's an expertly-shot, incredibly-acted idea of a film.
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.
I think it resonates especially for me because my paternal grandfather was one of those guys like Freddie that came back from the war and got pats on the back, but it had left him shellshocked and alcoholic and just deeply fucked up. And unlike Vietnam and the wars since then, WWII is generally glorified and we don't think as much about those guys being wounded in that way, while they obviously were. It actually helped me understand this guy I really had very little relationship with in a much deeper way. So in that respect I find it really powerful.tragabigzanda wrote:That's a really interesting take on The Master. It's actually in our shortlist "to-watch" queue because my wife hasn't seen it, so I'll keep this in mind and report back.Orpheus wrote:If I wanted to boil it down to essentials, TWBB is mostly about the search for domination, about hatred, and about finality. It ends with the protagonist denying his son and murdering his adversary. It almost seems to be driving towards man's state of war.
The Master is about the search for love and acceptance after coming out of war, death, and violence, and ends with a sort of beautiful reconciliation and what can be seen as the opposite of murder--making love/conception.
I really think they couldn't be more different, to be honest. But that's the beauty of film.
Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.