Guardians of the Galaxy

VinylGuy · Post by **VinylGuy** » Sat February 22, 2014 3:30 pm

Thats awesome and it shows how Marvel really are by doing a 200 million movie about a really unknown comic.
They are so smart they are tiding it to their next big thing, Avengers 2.

Meanwhile DC doesnt know how to introduce...wonder woman?

bada · Post by **bada** » Sat February 22, 2014 3:38 pm

Yeah the Marvel run movies seems willing to embrace the looniness inherent in comics books while DC is afraid of it. Makes me kinda sad. I will say I do notice that fans tend to hold DC to some odd "realism" standard that they don't hold Marvel too. You get the feeling DC is screwed no matter what.

VinylGuy · Post by **VinylGuy** » Sat February 22, 2014 3:50 pm

Not only that, but they seem clueless in how to make a movie about their well known characters. Feels they dont want to do it but they have to because Marvel got such a huge success.

McParadigm · Post by **McParadigm** » Sat February 22, 2014 8:04 pm

With Superman of Steel they seemed equal parts scared of straying too far from the DK trilogy's tone and worried that they would be seen as taking their subject matter too seriously if they didn't do something to offset the "grit," and make it feel a little more fantastical. They ended up with a movie that looked like three unrelated films got spliced together.

I just wish there was more interest in telling a good story with all these things. A lot of the time it seems like the top priority is the "panel art"...the capturing of a particular visual style and character image. Then they come up with a couple of "won't this looks cool" CG visual moments, and tie the most convoluted and lazy story around that just to get them to the set pieces they want to end up at.

Post by **stip** » Sat February 22, 2014 10:14 pm

I saw it on a plane, which admitedly is a terrible place to watch this kind of movie, but Thor II really felt like this. I thought it was the weakest of the new marvel movies excepting Iron Man II

red calzolaio · Post by **red calzolaio** » Sat February 22, 2014 10:17 pm

stip wrote:I saw it on a plane, which admitedly is a terrible place to watch this kind of movie, but Thor II really felt like this. I thought it was the weakest of the new marvel movies excepting Iron Man II

granted, i started drinking early...but i got no time for a movie like Thor £2. turned it off right away in favor of some tunes.

a fucking raccoon. yea.

BurtReynolds · Post by **BurtReynolds** » Sat February 22, 2014 10:27 pm

Warner bros has its grubby little hands on DCs properties more than Disney has theirs on Marvel, in my meager experience. I think the problem comes from WB more than DC.

Post by **Mecca** » Sun February 23, 2014 2:10 am

and besides Batman, DC comics characters aren't that exciting

MadTIGERmaN · Post by **MadTIGERmaN** » Sun February 23, 2014 2:42 am

BurtReynolds wrote:Warner bros has its grubby little hands on DCs properties more than Disney has theirs on Marvel, in my meager experience. I think the problem comes from WB more than DC.

Warner Bros over thinks/handles DC
Sony tries to out do Marvel... with 1 webhead Character
Fox, instead of making one kick ass movie with a few mutants, opts to cram 100 kick ass mutants into 1 movie.
while Disney lets Marvel basically make a comic book movie

either way... April - ummm when does Guardians come out? June? July? will be a... MARVELous few months of movies
Cap, Spidey, X-men, Guardians

Post by **stip** » Sun February 23, 2014 2:24 pm

Mecca wrote:and besides Batman, DC comics characters aren't that exciting

yup.

bada · Post by **bada** » Sun February 23, 2014 3:00 pm

DC and Marvel characters in most cases are basically the same. Often DC came up with them first. Usually when people say DC is lame compared to Marvel they are looking at the Silver Age versions of DC characters and contrasting them with Modern Age versions of Marvel characters. So if your only reference point to the larger DC universe is Super Friends then your only getting a small piece of the picture. All these characters are only as good as who is writing the story.

McParadigm · Post by **McParadigm** » Sun February 23, 2014 3:52 pm

bada wrote:All these characters are only as good as who is writing the story.

For sure.

I imagine that some of the tightrope walk of making these movies is trying to mass appeal while not earning the wrath of comic book fans...not unlike making a Star Trek movie, I guess...but the better the writing the less you have to worry about that stuff.

I think words like "experience" and "immersion" have really become the primary buzzwords for movie design, as Hollywood tries to resolve its financial frustrations. But, man....people DO still engage, when something really matters to them. When they are affected, they respond to that. Find an interesting story and tell it well. You'll do fine.

stupidmop · Post by **stupidmop** » Sun February 23, 2014 4:45 pm

Has anyone seen 'the lego movie'? they should just do a lego justice league movie.

Post by **Mecca** » Mon February 24, 2014 12:31 am

bada wrote:DC and Marvel characters in most cases are basically the same. Often DC came up with them first. Usually when people say DC is lame compared to Marvel they are looking at the Silver Age versions of DC characters and contrasting them with Modern Age versions of Marvel characters. So if your only reference point to the larger DC universe is Super Friends then your only getting a small piece of the picture. All these characters are only as good as who is writing the story.

there are a lot of characters that suck on the left side of the screen, but there's a lot more meh on the right side.

Post by **stip** » Mon February 24, 2014 12:41 pm

The left side is also missing some of marvels biggest characters. No Spider-Man, no X-men, no Hulk

Post by **stip** » Mon February 24, 2014 12:44 pm

I keep loving the idea of this movie the more I think about it. I had zero expectations going in and now I'm really excited for it. That was a great trailer. On the down side, now I am also setting myself up for possible disappointment.

Peeps · Post by **Peeps** » Mon February 24, 2014 12:58 pm

stip wrote:The left side is also missing some of marvels biggest characters. No Spider-Man, no X-men, no Hulk

there should be a hulk but the others no. this is from the avengers vs JLA and all those are members of either the Avengers or JLA

bada · Post by **bada** » Mon February 24, 2014 2:32 pm

What I was trying to convey with that picture was that both companies have a lot of characters that are at their core are mirror images of each other and those characters are only as good as who is writing for them. I don't think the Avengers team is inherently more interesting than the JLA team. Batman and Spider-Man who have to be two of the easiest characters to write for have bad movies to their credit because they had bad creative teams. Now we have a movie taking place in space with a talking raccoon and a sentient tree who can only say one word and it looks cool because they have a good creative team behind them. I have no doubt we could get Stip excited about a Shazam movie with the right people behind it.

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