Red Mosquito

are math rock bands any more limited than grunge bands? is battles' approach to music more "obscure" than pearl jam's?

A lot of math rock / metal bands shit more elegantly than Pearl Jam writes songs these days.

shitcore

my point is that all genres are limited by conventions. using pearl jam as an example is probably distracting

Let's see this thread as a global "Genre thread" for all these genres where everyone who's into said genre only listen to the 2 or 3 bands that got popular enough to make it a thing. See also: djent.

Lament wrote:Fuck that. Grimes is awesome.

Yeah, Visions is really something special. Heather is just stip-level close-minded, only about different music.

Malloy wrote:my point is that all genres are limited by conventions. using pearl jam as an example is probably distracting

I feel like a lot of the more rhythm-based genres-- like reggae, for example, which hinges on a very specific syncopation of drums, bass and guitars-- are a lot more limited than something as broad as "grunge", and often splinter off into subgenres and variations that tend to be a lot more interesting (like "dub").

Ultimately the most interesting artists tend to be the ones who don't really concern themselves with genres at all.

theplatypus wrote:

Lament wrote:Fuck that. Grimes is awesome.

Yeah, Visions is really something special. Heather is just stip-level close-minded, only about different music.

It's not my fault if every music whose sole function is fun/partying/dancing is interchangeable.

Heathen wrote:shitcore

Your top 10 favourite shitcore bands. Go.

harmless wrote:

Heathen wrote:shitcore

Your top 10 favourite shitcore bands. Go.

10. http://www.last.fm/music/Bonsai+The+Anus+Murderer
9. http://www.last.fm/music/Bonsai+The+Anus+Murderer
8. http://www.last.fm/music/Bonsai+The+Anus+Murderer
7. http://www.last.fm/music/Bonsai+The+Anus+Murderer
6. http://www.last.fm/music/Bonsai+The+Anus+Murderer
5. http://www.last.fm/music/Bonsai+The+Anus+Murderer
4. http://www.last.fm/music/Bonsai+The+Anus+Murderer
3. http://www.last.fm/music/Bonsai+The+Anus+Murderer
2. http://www.last.fm/music/Bonsai+The+Anus+Murderer
1. http://www.last.fm/music/Bonsai+The+Anus+Murderer

Is grimes' other album any good?

"The all encompassing thread for various narrowly defined musical subgroups of similar sounding artists, few of which would justify their own thread."

Wavecore: the thread.

Fadcore

malice wrote:

theplatypus wrote:Ultimately the most interesting artists tend to be the ones who don't really concern themselves with genres at all.

Seems like most bands wouldn't be caught dead labeling their music. but heathen will.

malice wrote:

theplatypus wrote:Ultimately the most interesting artists tend to be the ones who don't really concern themselves with genres at all.

They really have to concern themselves with mixing as many genres as possible though.

BurtReynolds wrote:Most of it is virtuoso show off crap to me, but Battles has a few good ones. Early Foals has some cool math sounding songs, too.

skill based music isn't an unfamiliar 'thing' - and that was something I wanted to comment on last night actually - there's a ton of rock bands from the 70s and 80s that I pretty much grew up with that were revered for the technical skill of the musicians more than any true joy the music lent itself to. I could be wrong about these bands but I'm thinking Rush, even Van Halen for Eddie's guitar playing, Jethro Tull...
it was either intellectual crowds that would appreciate the technique or complete burnouts who would appreciate the mastery of the playing (dude! Eddie was playing so fast I couldn't see his fingers moving!! blah blah blah- whatever).

in general it don't have an issue with that form of musical appreciation, mainly because it was ever present during my 'formative years' - it was normal... but as I developed my own likes/dislikes musically, it wasn't among the type of music I was interested in -

honestly I expected to be more put off by what I listened in this thread. but it's not un-enjoyable, it's just different from what I'd go to - that probably has more to do with the limitations I have as a music fan than the limitations of this 'subgenre'

also, I'm put off by the term subgenre. it's feels a little trite to me. is it necessary to create a name that appears to describe something very specifically yet if you're unfamiliar with it, it describes nothing about the music? that's pretentious to me.

I never liked the word grunge either - it was another made up word to define something that was just as easily defined as alternative to me - but again it's a matter of what you appreciate, and this generation strikes me as appreciating the specific, even when done with a bit of ironic aftertaste...

malice wrote:also, I'm put off by the term subgenre. it's feels a little trite to me. is it necessary to create a name that appears to describe something very specifically yet if you're unfamiliar with it, it describes nothing about the music? that's pretentious to me.

I don't get that. No genre describes the music if you're unfamiliar with the term. Like no word describes shit if you don't know what it means.