Red Mosquito

cutuphalfdead wrote:Hmmm, maybe your friend will teach you that sweeping generalizations like this are largely horse shit.

simple schoolboy wrote:

mookie wrote:I don't hate cops. I just can't figure out why bad copping is tolerated.

Its pretty simple, really: all the incentives are opposite of what you or I would consider good policing.

The Drug war brings in both civil asset forfeitures and federal grants, so it makes sense that departments follow the money. The drug war requires the best of police work (ie) 1 am flash bang raids.

In addition to the delightful shock and awe tactics, modern policing requires that any officer suspected of wrongdoing get access to the union rep who gets first look at the evidence so they can concoct a plausible story.We can imagine what would happen if any "civilian" suspected of a crime was given first access to evidence: a closure rate of just above zero.

In the totality of circumstances, I find no reason to sympathize with dead cops more than anyone else, or really, to sympathize with them at all.

mookie wrote:I'm not sure that withholding sympathy for dead cops is ok either. No sympathy for a bad cop sure - but cops in general - no. I still have optimism that a bad cop shop can become a good cop shop.


When are homeless people considered no better than feral cats?

When cops are out wearing their Bass Pro Shop best when they shoot a homeless man in Albuquerque. The man was probably a legitimate local pain in the ass, but is shooting him warranted? Geezo.

The video evidence has gone viral.

Ellis, an infantryman in Iraq whose family says he had post-traumatic stress disorder, was pulled over one morning in January 2010. Police said Ellis' plates didn't match his car.

When a police car pinned his car in from behind, the 25-year-old flipped. He got out of his car, put a pistol to his head, called his mom and asked her to come help. Annelle Wharton, his mother, got stopped a few blocks away.

"I got here in less than 10 minutes," she says. "And the cop said, 'Here let me get you away from the media,' and put me in the back of a squad car."

Police at the scene later testified that Ellis took one step toward an officer, still with the gun to his own head. Another officer shot Ellis, once, in the neck.

"They drove me up here and drove me right by him," Wharton says, "and I could see his body under the sheets."

The shooter went through the standard procedures: an internal police review and a grand jury. The killing was deemed justified.

And so it was with dozens more killings over the next four years. Kenneth Ellis II and other victims' relatives started going to meetings, gathering signatures on petitions, staging demonstrations, and suing the city.

Shannon Kennedy, who represents some of the families, says police treat suspects as if they don't have rights.

"In America, no one is above the law, and no one is below the law," she says. "And what happened in the city of Albuquerque is [police] officers were put above the law, and people with mental illness and people with criminal histories were put below the law, and that is what has got to be addressed here."

In March of this year, police responded to a 911 call saying a homeless man, later identified as James Boyd, was disturbing people in the foothills outside the city. Police .

After an hours-long standoff, Boyd agreed to come down the rocky hill. He grabbed his backpack, then police released a sound grenade, and a dog. Boyd grabbed two pocket knives and swiped at the dog. A police officer yelled for him to get on the ground, and Boyd started to turn away.

Two officers fired four live rounds. Boyd died. Police released the video to show it was a justified use of force.



People in the community were furious. Hundreds .

Then in April, the Justice Department , saying Albuquerque police regularly encounter people who do not pose a threat but then escalate tensions until those people do pose a threat.

After those findings came two more shooting deaths, and more protests. One victim was a 19-year-old woman who police say waved a gun during a foot chase.

The officers in these cases rarely get a chance to tell their stories because they could be used against them in court. The city already has paid tens of millions of dollars to shooting victims' families.

Shaun Willoughby, vice president of the local police union, says Albuquerque is a violent place. Civilians simply need to be educated about what police can and can't do.

"I'm shocked every time somebody from our community asks me, 'Well why didn't you just shoot the gun out of his hand?' Because we're not ninjas, and that's not realistic," Willoughby says. "So I think there's a huge breakdown of communication, what the expectations are, and what the reality behind the outcome is."

Albuquerque police will now get crisis intervention training, and they'll no longer be able use their own personal weapons on duty or shoot at moving cars. Police say more change will come once the city and the Justice Department agree on a plan.

The feds are also investigating the Boyd shooting in the foothills, and legal sources here say the feds might reopen other cases, too, like the Ellis case.

That would be good news for Annelle Wharton and her husband, Kenneth Ellis II, standing in that 7-Eleven parking lot. Their grandson in a civil lawsuit.

But still, they say, police need to be punished. "I think they need to go; I think they need to change out," Wharton says.

"Needs to be some indictments, and there need to be some officers put in jail and held accountable to the laws they've sworn to uphold," Ellis says.

We used to tell our kids the police were here to keep us safe, Wharton says. But now, none of us feels safe.

Why are black people so racist? Seems that at an early age they are taught by their mothers or grandmothers to hate white people. Not by the fathers, their not in the home.

Most (not all, but most) blacks are savages and need to be put down like mad dogs

More proof that after 400+ years here, African Americans still act more African than American. If you want to go tear down things, go back to the jungle. The US isn't the place for these types of shenanigans.

on that show cops they tell the blacks they are going to release the dog and the blacks never obey the cops and the dog is released can you say dummmmb nigggggggga

He has that "you gonna eat yo cornbread?" look on his face in the picture.

Ferguson is 67% black. Yuck!