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Re: movie: Inherent Vice (Phoenix, paul thomas anderson)

Posted: Thu February 05, 2015 7:14 pm
by lennytheweedwhacker
i haven't read the book or seen this yet, but i agree with orpheus

Re: movie: Inherent Vice (Phoenix, paul thomas anderson)

Posted: Thu February 05, 2015 7:24 pm
by Orpheus
And does any director use color more beautifully? Some of the shades in this movie were just dazzling.

Re: movie: Inherent Vice (Phoenix, paul thomas anderson)

Posted: Thu February 05, 2015 7:31 pm
by lennytheweedwhacker
Orpheus wrote:And does any director use color more beautifully? Some of the shades in this movie were just dazzling.
i noticed that in the trailer

Re: movie: Inherent Vice (Phoenix, paul thomas anderson)

Posted: Thu February 05, 2015 11:03 pm
by LoathedVermin72
Orpheus wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
VinylGuy wrote:Im reading the book..and to be honest, its really hard to keep track of it...
Sounds like the movie is an accurate representation then
Yeah I pretty much knew it would be like that going in so it didn't bother me much. I think it's intended to put you in the same state as Doc, which I could understand many viewers not enjoying. I loved it. And honestly compared to something like trying to read Gravity's Rainbow this was a walk in the park. PTA definitely understood what he was adapting and how it would be difficult to make it come across.
I don't disagree, but nothing in the movie connected with me in any meaningful way. If there had been an insightful/relevant thematic through-line to pull me through the purposely dense, impenetrable narrative, I wouldn't have cared. Even an aesthetic through-line would have been okay. But nothing hooked me.

Re: movie: Inherent Vice (Phoenix, paul thomas anderson)

Posted: Thu February 05, 2015 11:07 pm
by BurtReynolds
you guys need to watch this again so you can catch up.

Re: movie: Inherent Vice (Phoenix, paul thomas anderson)

Posted: Thu February 05, 2015 11:07 pm
by BurtReynolds
so you can get it.

Re: movie: Inherent Vice (Phoenix, paul thomas anderson)

Posted: Thu February 12, 2015 3:14 am
by Bob Loblaw
I kinda hated this even though I wanted to love it.

Re: movie: Inherent Vice (Phoenix, paul thomas anderson)

Posted: Sun March 08, 2015 8:27 pm
by LoathedVermin72
Great piece by Bret Easton Ellis, even though I have a few quibbles here and there (calling TWBB and The Master "humorless" is just incorrect): http://thetalkhouse.com/film/talks/nove ... rent-vice/

Re: movie: Inherent Vice (Phoenix, paul thomas anderson)

Posted: Mon March 09, 2015 4:18 am
by Malloy
i think most everyone got this one wrong, and even ellis is playing it somewhat safe with his "mixed" review

Re: movie: Inherent Vice (Phoenix, paul thomas anderson)

Posted: Mon March 09, 2015 4:24 am
by LoathedVermin72
What did you make of it, 'loy?

Re: movie: Inherent Vice (Phoenix, paul thomas anderson)

Posted: Mon March 09, 2015 11:37 am
by Malloy
i thought it was quite good

Re: movie: Inherent Vice (Phoenix, paul thomas anderson)

Posted: Mon March 09, 2015 1:22 pm
by LoathedVermin72
That doesn't tell me much

Re: movie: Inherent Vice (Phoenix, paul thomas anderson)

Posted: Mon March 09, 2015 7:07 pm
by Orpheus
Malloy wrote:i thought it was quite good
I'll definitely be watching it again when it hits the home market.

Re: movie: Inherent Vice (Phoenix, paul thomas anderson)

Posted: Mon March 09, 2015 9:27 pm
by Simple Torture
Just (finally) watched this today, and I dig it. A fascinating film that fits nicely into Anderson's body of work, although I think it certainly reveals why more postmodern novels (Pynchon, Delillo, etc.) haven't been adapted into films. There are two devices that I think speak directly to this: Doc's notes and Doc's whiteboard. The latter is a tantalizing hint that the whole plot may come together and fit like a complex puzzle, but it doesn't hang on the screen long enough to answer many questions. Doc's notes mock the idea of an unreliable narrator: as soon as he writes "not hallucinating," it'd be easy to yell, "Ah-ha! Unreliable narrator!" But I think Doc's trippiness adds coherence to the narrative instead of taking it away.

The final scene between Doc and Bigfoot was among my favorites, and it also made me hit my head and say: "Of course!" I think this film will hold up to repeated viewings, and one thing I'll be paying attention to next time is how Doc and Bigfoot's relationship is really the driving force of the plot. My ah-ha moment here is because, of course, most of Anderson's movies are centered around working out the complexities of male-male relationships (Punch Drunk Love obviously doesn't fit; Magnolia might not have a center like that per se, but there are some relationships in there that fit the bill). But while TWBB, Boogie Nights, and Hard Eight have more of a father-son thing going, this is more fraternal. I dunno, just getting initial thoughts down, but I'm going to come back to this, I'm sure of it.

Re: movie: Inherent Vice (Phoenix, paul thomas anderson)

Posted: Tue March 10, 2015 12:35 am
by Orpheus
The final scene between them is one of the best and funniest things I've ever seen in a movie theatre.

Re: movie: Inherent Vice (Phoenix, paul thomas anderson)

Posted: Tue March 10, 2015 12:46 am
by Simple Torture
The sex scene with Shasta was also very well done, and the tone was much, much different in the novel. The film turned a goofy, over-the-top romp into something seedy and full of dangerous sexual energy.

Re: movie: Inherent Vice (Phoenix, paul thomas anderson)

Posted: Thu June 25, 2015 11:08 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
This movie was annoying and not very good

Re: movie: Inherent Vice (Phoenix, paul thomas anderson)

Posted: Thu June 25, 2015 11:22 pm
by LoathedVermin72
E.H. Ruddock wrote:This movie was annoying and not very good
Yes

Re: movie: Inherent Vice (Phoenix, paul thomas anderson)

Posted: Thu June 25, 2015 11:22 pm
by Rangi Guy
I'll probably see this before watching Blackhat