Red Mosquito

LoathedVermin72 wrote:

@SkitchP wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote: Though, I wouldn't necessarily be opposed, provided it didn't cost me or earn him any new money.

I can buy this element of it, to an extent. Using LV's Paul Attenasio example- I already bought the Homicide DVD's. Im not going to throw them out, but I could probably reconcile continuing to watch them, because I wouldnt be SUPPORTING his work, simply enjoying it. But promoting upcoming things as being "excited" about them is, or spending money to support them or encouraging others to do so just seems... wrong.

I can definitely see where you're coming from. And you're not even really wrong. For example, I don't patronize Chick-Fil-A or Hobby Lobby because I don't want my money to go to supporting their causes. So I guess that just makes me a huge hypocrite, haha. But honestly, I've never really looked at paying money to watch a movie as supporting the filmmaker - I'm just paying to be able to see a film I might enjoy. But if I think that, then shouldn't I just be able to pay for a chicken sandwich I might enjoy at Chick-Fil-A too? Fuck, man. I don't know.

Like I said, I've never been able to reconcile this shit, even after thinking about it for years. It's a fucking hornet's nest. I just don't fucking know. I just can't imagine my life without Polanski's films in it; they mean so much to me and informed so many of many cinematic sensibilities. The waters of this issue couldn't possibly be any murkier for me.

@SkitchP wrote:

LoathedVermin72 wrote:

@SkitchP wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote: Though, I wouldn't necessarily be opposed, provided it didn't cost me or earn him any new money.

I can buy this element of it, to an extent. Using LV's Paul Attenasio example- I already bought the Homicide DVD's. Im not going to throw them out, but I could probably reconcile continuing to watch them, because I wouldnt be SUPPORTING his work, simply enjoying it. But promoting upcoming things as being "excited" about them is, or spending money to support them or encouraging others to do so just seems... wrong.

I can definitely see where you're coming from. And you're not even really wrong. For example, I don't patronize Chick-Fil-A or Hobby Lobby because I don't want my money to go to supporting their causes. So I guess that just makes me a huge hypocrite, haha. But honestly, I've never really looked at paying money to watch a movie as supporting the filmmaker - I'm just paying to be able to see a film I might enjoy. But if I think that, then shouldn't I just be able to pay for a chicken sandwich I might enjoy at Chick-Fil-A too? Fuck, man. I don't know.

Like I said, I've never been able to reconcile this shit, even after thinking about it for years. It's a fucking hornet's nest. I just don't fucking know. I just can't imagine my life without Polanski's films in it; they mean so much to me and informed so many of many cinematic sensibilities. The waters of this issue couldn't possibly be any murkier for me.

I think i could accept this response if you could point me to where Roman Polanski saved a million antelopes. Dev told me one of his movies could do that.

durdencommatyler wrote:

@SkitchP wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote: Though, I wouldn't necessarily be opposed, provided it didn't cost me or earn him any new money.

I can buy this element of it, to an extent. Using LV's Paul Attenasio example- I already bought the Homicide DVD's. Im not going to throw them out, but I could probably reconcile continuing to watch them, because I wouldnt be SUPPORTING his work, simply enjoying it. But promoting upcoming things as being "excited" about them is, or spending money to support them or encouraging others to do so just seems... wrong.

I think I agree. I'm still trying to figure out how to reconcile all of this. John Lennon by most accounts was known to be mentally and at times physically violent toward women. Especially earlier in his life. But I does that mean I shouldn't listen to the Beatles? I'm not sure how I could abandon their work given how much they've meant to me.

But, on the other hand, I have no intention of supporting anything Bill Cosby ever does again. The news about Cosby has been eye opening for me personally, and has gone a long way toward helping me figure out how I want to chose to react to these sorts of things. It should all be equal. There should be consequences to actions. And it's time that men stop being sheltered because of status. I believe that. And I'm aware that it makes me a hypocrite when it comes to Woody Allen. I'm genuinely not sure how to deal with these things. Is it case by case? Is it a blanket policy? I really don't know. I'm learning a lot about myself through all of it and I'm not sure I like all of it, frankly.

cutuphalfdead wrote:How does paying to see a movie not support the filmmaker?

LoathedVermin72 wrote:

cutuphalfdead wrote:How does paying to see a movie not support the filmmaker?

I DON'T HAVE ALL THE ANSWERS I'M JUST ONE MAN

LoathedVermin72 wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

@SkitchP wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote: Though, I wouldn't necessarily be opposed, provided it didn't cost me or earn him any new money.

I can buy this element of it, to an extent. Using LV's Paul Attenasio example- I already bought the Homicide DVD's. Im not going to throw them out, but I could probably reconcile continuing to watch them, because I wouldnt be SUPPORTING his work, simply enjoying it. But promoting upcoming things as being "excited" about them is, or spending money to support them or encouraging others to do so just seems... wrong.

I think I agree. I'm still trying to figure out how to reconcile all of this. John Lennon by most accounts was known to be mentally and at times physically violent toward women. Especially earlier in his life. But I does that mean I shouldn't listen to the Beatles? I'm not sure how I could abandon their work given how much they've meant to me.

But, on the other hand, I have no intention of supporting anything Bill Cosby ever does again. The news about Cosby has been eye opening for me personally, and has gone a long way toward helping me figure out how I want to chose to react to these sorts of things. It should all be equal. There should be consequences to actions. And it's time that men stop being sheltered because of status. I believe that. And I'm aware that it makes me a hypocrite when it comes to Woody Allen. I'm genuinely not sure how to deal with these things. Is it case by case? Is it a blanket policy? I really don't know. I'm learning a lot about myself through all of it and I'm not sure I like all of it, frankly.

I like how we both posted super similar posts simultaneously. Perhaps there's still some life left in Joedan?

@SkitchP wrote:

LoathedVermin72 wrote:

@SkitchP wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote: Though, I wouldn't necessarily be opposed, provided it didn't cost me or earn him any new money.

I can buy this element of it, to an extent. Using LV's Paul Attenasio example- I already bought the Homicide DVD's. Im not going to throw them out, but I could probably reconcile continuing to watch them, because I wouldnt be SUPPORTING his work, simply enjoying it. But promoting upcoming things as being "excited" about them is, or spending money to support them or encouraging others to do so just seems... wrong.

I can definitely see where you're coming from. And you're not even really wrong. For example, I don't patronize Chick-Fil-A or Hobby Lobby because I don't want my money to go to supporting their causes. So I guess that just makes me a huge hypocrite, haha. But honestly, I've never really looked at paying money to watch a movie as supporting the filmmaker - I'm just paying to be able to see a film I might enjoy. But if I think that, then shouldn't I just be able to pay for a chicken sandwich I might enjoy at Chick-Fil-A too? Fuck, man. I don't know.

Like I said, I've never been able to reconcile this shit, even after thinking about it for years. It's a fucking hornet's nest. I just don't fucking know. I just can't imagine my life without Polanski's films in it; they mean so much to me and informed so many of many cinematic sensibilities. The waters of this issue couldn't possibly be any murkier for me.

I think i could accept this response if you could point me to where Roman Polanski saved a million antelopes. Dev told me one of his movies could do that.

Dev wrote:

@SkitchP wrote:

LoathedVermin72 wrote:

@SkitchP wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote: Though, I wouldn't necessarily be opposed, provided it didn't cost me or earn him any new money.

I can buy this element of it, to an extent. Using LV's Paul Attenasio example- I already bought the Homicide DVD's. Im not going to throw them out, but I could probably reconcile continuing to watch them, because I wouldnt be SUPPORTING his work, simply enjoying it. But promoting upcoming things as being "excited" about them is, or spending money to support them or encouraging others to do so just seems... wrong.

I can definitely see where you're coming from. And you're not even really wrong. For example, I don't patronize Chick-Fil-A or Hobby Lobby because I don't want my money to go to supporting their causes. So I guess that just makes me a huge hypocrite, haha. But honestly, I've never really looked at paying money to watch a movie as supporting the filmmaker - I'm just paying to be able to see a film I might enjoy. But if I think that, then shouldn't I just be able to pay for a chicken sandwich I might enjoy at Chick-Fil-A too? Fuck, man. I don't know.

Like I said, I've never been able to reconcile this shit, even after thinking about it for years. It's a fucking hornet's nest. I just don't fucking know. I just can't imagine my life without Polanski's films in it; they mean so much to me and informed so many of many cinematic sensibilities. The waters of this issue couldn't possibly be any murkier for me.

I think i could accept this response if you could point me to where Roman Polanski saved a million antelopes. Dev told me one of his movies could do that.

What if Loathed doesn't pay for the film, watches it, and it enriches his life in any way whatsoever. Maybe it makes him a better person?

cutuphalfdead wrote:I'd give it all for a legacy of love.

Dev wrote:

@SkitchP wrote:

LoathedVermin72 wrote:

@SkitchP wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote: Though, I wouldn't necessarily be opposed, provided it didn't cost me or earn him any new money.

I can buy this element of it, to an extent. Using LV's Paul Attenasio example- I already bought the Homicide DVD's. Im not going to throw them out, but I could probably reconcile continuing to watch them, because I wouldnt be SUPPORTING his work, simply enjoying it. But promoting upcoming things as being "excited" about them is, or spending money to support them or encouraging others to do so just seems... wrong.

I can definitely see where you're coming from. And you're not even really wrong. For example, I don't patronize Chick-Fil-A or Hobby Lobby because I don't want my money to go to supporting their causes. So I guess that just makes me a huge hypocrite, haha. But honestly, I've never really looked at paying money to watch a movie as supporting the filmmaker - I'm just paying to be able to see a film I might enjoy. But if I think that, then shouldn't I just be able to pay for a chicken sandwich I might enjoy at Chick-Fil-A too? Fuck, man. I don't know.

Like I said, I've never been able to reconcile this shit, even after thinking about it for years. It's a fucking hornet's nest. I just don't fucking know. I just can't imagine my life without Polanski's films in it; they mean so much to me and informed so many of many cinematic sensibilities. The waters of this issue couldn't possibly be any murkier for me.

I think i could accept this response if you could point me to where Roman Polanski saved a million antelopes. Dev told me one of his movies could do that.

What if Loathed doesn't pay for the film, watches it, and it enriches his life in any way whatsoever. Maybe it makes him a better person?

durdencommatyler wrote:

Dev wrote:

@SkitchP wrote:

LoathedVermin72 wrote:

@SkitchP wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote: Though, I wouldn't necessarily be opposed, provided it didn't cost me or earn him any new money.

I can buy this element of it, to an extent. Using LV's Paul Attenasio example- I already bought the Homicide DVD's. Im not going to throw them out, but I could probably reconcile continuing to watch them, because I wouldnt be SUPPORTING his work, simply enjoying it. But promoting upcoming things as being "excited" about them is, or spending money to support them or encouraging others to do so just seems... wrong.

I can definitely see where you're coming from. And you're not even really wrong. For example, I don't patronize Chick-Fil-A or Hobby Lobby because I don't want my money to go to supporting their causes. So I guess that just makes me a huge hypocrite, haha. But honestly, I've never really looked at paying money to watch a movie as supporting the filmmaker - I'm just paying to be able to see a film I might enjoy. But if I think that, then shouldn't I just be able to pay for a chicken sandwich I might enjoy at Chick-Fil-A too? Fuck, man. I don't know.

Like I said, I've never been able to reconcile this shit, even after thinking about it for years. It's a fucking hornet's nest. I just don't fucking know. I just can't imagine my life without Polanski's films in it; they mean so much to me and informed so many of many cinematic sensibilities. The waters of this issue couldn't possibly be any murkier for me.

I think i could accept this response if you could point me to where Roman Polanski saved a million antelopes. Dev told me one of his movies could do that.

What if Loathed doesn't pay for the film, watches it, and it enriches his life in any way whatsoever. Maybe it makes him a better person?

This is valid only if its impossible for a non-rapist's films to do the same.

Dev wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

Dev wrote:

@SkitchP wrote:

LoathedVermin72 wrote:

@SkitchP wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote: Though, I wouldn't necessarily be opposed, provided it didn't cost me or earn him any new money.

I can buy this element of it, to an extent. Using LV's Paul Attenasio example- I already bought the Homicide DVD's. Im not going to throw them out, but I could probably reconcile continuing to watch them, because I wouldnt be SUPPORTING his work, simply enjoying it. But promoting upcoming things as being "excited" about them is, or spending money to support them or encouraging others to do so just seems... wrong.

I can definitely see where you're coming from. And you're not even really wrong. For example, I don't patronize Chick-Fil-A or Hobby Lobby because I don't want my money to go to supporting their causes. So I guess that just makes me a huge hypocrite, haha. But honestly, I've never really looked at paying money to watch a movie as supporting the filmmaker - I'm just paying to be able to see a film I might enjoy. But if I think that, then shouldn't I just be able to pay for a chicken sandwich I might enjoy at Chick-Fil-A too? Fuck, man. I don't know.

Like I said, I've never been able to reconcile this shit, even after thinking about it for years. It's a fucking hornet's nest. I just don't fucking know. I just can't imagine my life without Polanski's films in it; they mean so much to me and informed so many of many cinematic sensibilities. The waters of this issue couldn't possibly be any murkier for me.

I think i could accept this response if you could point me to where Roman Polanski saved a million antelopes. Dev told me one of his movies could do that.

What if Loathed doesn't pay for the film, watches it, and it enriches his life in any way whatsoever. Maybe it makes him a better person?

This is valid only if its impossible for a non-rapist's films to do the same.

so what should we tell him? Hey this polanski movie will probably help you cope with whatever you are going through(for example) but you should keep looking and see if you can'y find another movie that will effect you on the same level before you let yourself watch the movie by polanski. putting this into application is absurd.

@SkitchP wrote:

Dev wrote:

@SkitchP wrote:

LoathedVermin72 wrote:

@SkitchP wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote: Though, I wouldn't necessarily be opposed, provided it didn't cost me or earn him any new money.

I can buy this element of it, to an extent. Using LV's Paul Attenasio example- I already bought the Homicide DVD's. Im not going to throw them out, but I could probably reconcile continuing to watch them, because I wouldnt be SUPPORTING his work, simply enjoying it. But promoting upcoming things as being "excited" about them is, or spending money to support them or encouraging others to do so just seems... wrong.

I can definitely see where you're coming from. And you're not even really wrong. For example, I don't patronize Chick-Fil-A or Hobby Lobby because I don't want my money to go to supporting their causes. So I guess that just makes me a huge hypocrite, haha. But honestly, I've never really looked at paying money to watch a movie as supporting the filmmaker - I'm just paying to be able to see a film I might enjoy. But if I think that, then shouldn't I just be able to pay for a chicken sandwich I might enjoy at Chick-Fil-A too? Fuck, man. I don't know.

Like I said, I've never been able to reconcile this shit, even after thinking about it for years. It's a fucking hornet's nest. I just don't fucking know. I just can't imagine my life without Polanski's films in it; they mean so much to me and informed so many of many cinematic sensibilities. The waters of this issue couldn't possibly be any murkier for me.

I think i could accept this response if you could point me to where Roman Polanski saved a million antelopes. Dev told me one of his movies could do that.

What if Loathed doesn't pay for the film, watches it, and it enriches his life in any way whatsoever. Maybe it makes him a better person?

I think verbalizing it is really my biggest concern at that point. If he's enriched, he's going to encourage others to see it as well, which eventually would support the "artist"