Red Mosquito

Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:they arent really gonna charge us for doing this test are they?

no

broken iris wrote:Sorry if this was covered, but do "Mars Floor" and "Mars Reserved" count as different shows?

no. it's the same show.

(I inquired within)

Simple Torture wrote:Pearl Jam doesn't even play the South for their fake tours.

uranus is south

Coach wrote:All the reminders from the Ten Club to renew my membership (or else!) and saving my cash when I was a teenager to keep my low number is pretty much useless at this point. Greeeeaaaaat. But at least one fan got to make a set list!

Seniority isn't going anywhere.

Birds in Hell wrote:

Coach wrote:All the reminders from the Ten Club to renew my membership (or else!) and saving my cash when I was a teenager to keep my low number is pretty much useless at this point. Greeeeaaaaat. But at least one fan got to make a set list!

Seniority isn't going anywhere.

Yeah, but those of us in the North Eastern US will not be able to get tickets, at least no where near the frequency we could before, so...

broken iris wrote:

Birds in Hell wrote:

Coach wrote:All the reminders from the Ten Club to renew my membership (or else!) and saving my cash when I was a teenager to keep my low number is pretty much useless at this point. Greeeeaaaaat. But at least one fan got to make a set list!

Seniority isn't going anywhere.

Yeah, but those of us in the North Eastern US will not be able to get tickets, at least no where near the frequency we could before, so...

Sure, but that has nothing to do with a high or low 10C number.

A lower number has never meant a better CHANCE of securing tickets, so I don't understand Coach's post.

Birds in Hell wrote:

broken iris wrote:

Birds in Hell wrote:

Coach wrote:All the reminders from the Ten Club to renew my membership (or else!) and saving my cash when I was a teenager to keep my low number is pretty much useless at this point. Greeeeaaaaat. But at least one fan got to make a set list!

Seniority isn't going anywhere.

Yeah, but those of us in the North Eastern US will not be able to get tickets, at least no where near the frequency we could before, so...

Sure, but that has nothing to do with a high or low 10C number.

A lower number has never meant a better CHANCE of securing tickets, so I don't understand Coach's post.

I assume he meant 'what's the point of having a low number if I can't use it?'

broken iris wrote:

Birds in Hell wrote:

broken iris wrote:

Birds in Hell wrote:

Coach wrote:All the reminders from the Ten Club to renew my membership (or else!) and saving my cash when I was a teenager to keep my low number is pretty much useless at this point. Greeeeaaaaat. But at least one fan got to make a set list!

Seniority isn't going anywhere.

Yeah, but those of us in the North Eastern US will not be able to get tickets, at least no where near the frequency we could before, so...

Sure, but that has nothing to do with a high or low 10C number.

A lower number has never meant a better CHANCE of securing tickets, so I don't understand Coach's post.

I assume he meant 'what's the point of having a low number if I can't use it?'

I guess, but the fact of having a high or low number is kind of immaterial. If he manages to secure tickets, his seniority kicks in as it always has. I get that people think it'll mean their individual chances of getting chosen are now lessened, but could the fanclub really keep going indefinitely with the "mash F5 and pray" method of ticket buying?

I know it's a different scenario in the US as there's so many more 10C members, but is it such a big deal if you miss out and have to go through Ticketek? I let my membership go as I never used it for tickets, I always preferred going through the public sales (cheaper, more reliable, etc.)

If I were 10C, I'd stop selling tickets altogether and just give people a Ticketek pre-sale password or something. It seems like a gigantic headache.

Birds in Hell wrote:

broken iris wrote:

Birds in Hell wrote:

broken iris wrote:

Birds in Hell wrote:

Coach wrote:All the reminders from the Ten Club to renew my membership (or else!) and saving my cash when I was a teenager to keep my low number is pretty much useless at this point. Greeeeaaaaat. But at least one fan got to make a set list!

Seniority isn't going anywhere.

Yeah, but those of us in the North Eastern US will not be able to get tickets, at least no where near the frequency we could before, so...

Sure, but that has nothing to do with a high or low 10C number.

A lower number has never meant a better CHANCE of securing tickets, so I don't understand Coach's post.

I assume he meant 'what's the point of having a low number if I can't use it?'

I guess, but the fact of having a high or low number is kind of immaterial. If he manages to secure tickets, his seniority kicks in as it always has. I get that people think it'll mean their individual chances of getting chosen are now lessened, but could the fanclub really keep going indefinitely with the "mash F5 and pray" method of ticket buying?

I know it's a different scenario in the US as there's so many more 10C members, but is it such a big deal if you miss out and have to go through Ticketek? I let my membership go as I never used it for tickets, I always preferred going through the public sales (cheaper, more reliable, etc.)

If I were 10C, I'd stop selling tickets altogether and just give people a Ticketek pre-sale password or something. It seems like a gigantic headache.

No. 1 - What's the point in having a low number if I can't use it in my backyard, Boston, which is a popular place to see a show.....

No. 2 - I assume that the lottery means, we'll also have the continuation of the socialist 'spreading the wealth' and 'everyone gets a fair shot' at the tickets in rows 1-2 and 9-10, which means my low number is further obsolete.

The same # of 10 Clubbers will be getting tickets to each show as before. Almost never has a 10 Clubber shut out of a full size PJ concert. I don't know how many times this can be repeated. For shows that are super hot (MSG?) this just means people will be more likely to get MSG tickets if it's their 1st choice and not their 10th.

Makes sense to me.

given2trade wrote:Almost never has a 10 Clubber shut out of a full size PJ concert.

Please explain what you meant here.

EJ wrote:

given2trade wrote:Almost never has a 10 Clubber shut out of a full size PJ concert.

Please explain what you meant here.

When PJ plays 20k venues, it's rare for someone to get shut out of the 10 club ticketing process. They get A LOT of tickets. MSG might be the only venue this happens in.

I'm not worried about being shut out of a full Pearl Jam show. I am worried about how my number has remained the same, yet, my seats continue to get worse. Under this new plan, I don't see how this will improve that situation.

I'm now at the point in my life where I can drop significant $$ for a pair of front row seats via StubHub, but is that really what Pearl Jam wants us to do?

given2trade wrote:

EJ wrote:

given2trade wrote:Almost never has a 10 Clubber shut out of a full size PJ concert.

Please explain what you meant here.

When PJ plays 20k venues, it's rare for someone to get shut out of the 10 club ticketing process. They get A LOT of tickets. MSG might be the only venue this happens in.

MSG
Philly
Boston
Chicago
...basically where the majority of U.S. 10c members reside.

There's threads upon threads on synergy about 10c members being shut out of shows. I could be wrong, but I thought the 10c only gets 10% of the avail tickets for its 10c members?

did you have a guarantee of a show before, Coach? If anything I'd think your odds of getting to use your seniority are greater under this system.

The only people I see this hurting are the people hitting multiple shows. But I think a system that prioritizes the people seeing one show (or making it easier for them to see it) is a good idea.

Coach wrote:I assume that the lottery means, we'll also have the continuation of the socialist 'spreading the wealth' and 'everyone gets a fair shot' at the tickets in rows 1-2 and 9-10, which means my low number is further obsolete.

It's just tickets to a rock concert, you know.

You know, I finally don't care about this.

Spenno....I know it's a rock concert, and I'm not losing sleep over it, believe me.

Stip...no, I never had a guarantee before, but never had trouble securing fabulous seats on back-to-back nights in Boston. I think the odds of hitting two shows in the same city are more difficult now.

I understand that the band and its management reserve the right to change the rules at any given time.

This all likely means that I'll be purchasing super expensive seats via a third party site (pending my wife's approval) as my "back up" potential seats through Ten Club.

given2trade wrote:The same # of 10 Clubbers will be getting tickets to each show as before.

You say this again and again, but I don't believe it. My guess is that because the 10c has lowered the barriers to entry to getting tickets (you no longer have to sit at home on a Tuesday from 9am PST to 11am PST hitting refresh) the number of people trying for tickets will increase. We are not entitled to tickets, but I don't see how this won't make it much harder to attend concerts in the DC->Boston corridor.

i can't wait to use the huge pennant i win for a blanket and make sweet love to mrs. ellis on it.