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Re: TV: Lost

Posted: Wed February 06, 2019 5:56 am
by Bammer
Strat wrote:https://consequenceofsound.net/2019/02/abc-possible-lost-reboot/?fbclid=IwAR0DGyT3vlDtiUsf-CdcQ5grfiOLA8Ho1tC6h668F0pyNRnXEPmTwyUfXrg

Reboot? Absolutely not!

A new crew at the island in the same universe? Sure!
Oh my god fucking fuck what is wrong with people it hasn’t even been 10 years

Leave this show alone

Re: TV: Lost

Posted: Wed February 06, 2019 5:42 pm
by Superblood Wolfmoon
Bammer wrote:fucking fuck what is wrong with people it hasn’t even been 10 years
What's wrong is that most people are intellectually and creatively lazy...they get something that brings them enjoyment and lets them forget for a while that we're all hurtling towards death with no way to stop it. And when that ends they just want more of the same feeling, so they become misguided into thinking that the thing that brought them the enjoyment can be easily reproduced.
Spoiler: show
It can't.
That won't stop them from trying though. We can debate the merits of Lost in hindsight, but what gets lost in the discussion is the cultural phenomenon that this was outside of the show. It's the last show I can remember that it seemed everyone was watching. We had discussions every morning at work the day after the show aired. We scoured the internet. We read Jeff's blog posts. Analyzed every little detail. If you "reboot" the show and basically try to tell the same story with different actors hoping to achieve the same result, it will fail miserably. Lost was lightning in a bottle, the rare show that transcends being a show and becomes much more. But it's over now, and it's not coming back. And it's especially sad that some dipshit who sits atop a major TV network doesn't realize all this.

I'd certainly be down for an expansion of the story...like someone said a Dharma Initiative backstory seems like a good place to start. Actually the show was full of threads that could be explored and mined for new ideas. But even if that happens, it's a fool's errand to expect it to have the same impact as the original show.

Re: TV: Lost

Posted: Wed February 06, 2019 5:44 pm
by Monkey_Driven
meatwad wrote: That won't stop them from trying though. We can debate the merits of Lost in hindsight, but what gets lost in the discussion is the cultural phenomenon that this was outside of the show. It's the last show I can remember that it seemed everyone was watching. We had discussions every morning at work the day after the show aired. We scoured the internet. We read Jeff's blog posts. Analyzed every little detail. If you "reboot" the show and basically try to tell the same story with different actors hoping to achieve the same result, it will fail miserably. Lost was lightning in a bottle, the rare show that transcends being a show and becomes much more. But it's over now, and it's not coming back. And it's especially sad that some dipshit who sits atop a major TV network doesn't realize all this.

I'd certainly be down for an expansion of the story...like someone said a Dharma Initiative backstory seems like a good place to start. Actually the show was full of threads that could be explored and mined for new ideas. But even if that happens, it's a fool's errand to expect it to have the same impact as the original show.
The only show that has come close to this is Game of Thrones and it had five books of source material.

Re: TV: Lost

Posted: Wed February 06, 2019 6:24 pm
by 4/5
durdencommatyler wrote:
Blaine Ryan wrote:Still probably my all-time favorite show.
:luv:
These guys get it.
Sgt. Crackpot wrote:Wut. They're all dead.
This guy doesn't. :shake:

Re: TV: Lost

Posted: Thu February 07, 2019 1:29 am
by epilogue
4/5 wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:
Blaine Ryan wrote:Still probably my all-time favorite show.
:luv:
These guys get it.
Sgt. Crackpot wrote:Wut. They're all dead.
This guy doesn't. :shake:
I love you, April.

Re: TV: Lost

Posted: Thu February 07, 2019 6:43 am
by Sgt. Crackpot
4/5 wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:
Blaine Ryan wrote:Still probably my all-time favorite show.
:luv:
These guys get it.
Sgt. Crackpot wrote:Wut. They're all dead.
This guy doesn't. :shake:
That thing was an arduous journey of tiny snippets of answers that always accompanied new questions. It all finally came to an ending that was kinda predictable (from the first season).

Sure the production values were brilliant and the acting was high standard. But still, the thought of this all being done over again is exhausting just thinking about it.

Re: TV: Lost

Posted: Thu February 07, 2019 2:01 pm
by Blaine Ryan
Not sure if I should spoiler this or not, but just in case someone’s reading who hasn’t seen it:
Spoiler: show
They weren’t dead the whole time. Them being dead the whole time was a hugely popular fan theory dating back to the first season, which is part of why I loved the ending — it was a clever twist on peoples’ expectations.
As for it bringing up more questions with each of its answers, that’s just a staple of episodic storytelling. Which the show executed brilliantly. What fun would it have been if we had gotten all of the answers at the end of the first season? The whole point was to keep you engaged and questioning things until the very end, which I think it accomplished.

Re: TV: Lost

Posted: Thu February 07, 2019 2:32 pm
by epilogue
Your spoiler is incorrect.

Re: TV: Lost

Posted: Thu February 07, 2019 2:39 pm
by Blaine Ryan
D'oh. Don't mind me. I haven't watched the show in a few years.

Re: TV: Lost

Posted: Thu February 07, 2019 2:49 pm
by Strat
durdencommatyler wrote:Your spoiler is incorrect.
i thought so too but now im second guessing what actually happened!

Re: TV: Lost

Posted: Thu February 07, 2019 2:56 pm
by Blaine Ryan
I JUST KNOW THEY WEREN'T DEAD THE WHOLE TIME, OKAY

Re: TV: Lost

Posted: Thu February 07, 2019 4:18 pm
by 4/5
I don't know if his initial spoiler was right or wrong but what it says right now is definitely correct.
Sgt. Crackpot wrote:It all finally came to an ending that was kinda predictable (from the first season).

I couldn't disagree more and the only way I can see it as being predictable is if they were all dead, which they weren't. It drives me insane that people thought that was the ending then and that somehow that idea has stuck around to the point that whenever somebody who hasn't watched Lost hears it mentioned, by far the most common statement I hear is, "but they were all dead the whole time, right?" NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! They weren't!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Re: TV: Lost

Posted: Thu February 07, 2019 4:36 pm
by Monkey_Driven
We watched the Nikki and Paulo the other night. I loved how incredibly self aware it was.

Re: TV: Lost

Posted: Thu February 07, 2019 5:03 pm
by 4/5
Monkey_Driven wrote:We watched the Nikki and Paulo the other night. I loved how incredibly self aware it was.
Ah, one of the most infamous Lost episodes ever. It gets a lot of hate, and while it was pretty useless in the grand scheme of things it was a nice lighthearted diversion, it was fun to see familiar events from the prospective of people not in the ingroup, and well, Nikki was pretty hot.

Re: TV: Lost

Posted: Thu February 07, 2019 6:48 pm
by epilogue
Blaine Ryan wrote:I JUST KNOW THEY WEREN'T DEAD THE WHOLE TIME, OKAY
:lol:

Re: TV: Lost

Posted: Thu February 07, 2019 6:51 pm
by epilogue
4/5 wrote:
Monkey_Driven wrote:We watched the Nikki and Paulo the other night. I loved how incredibly self aware it was.
Ah, one of the most infamous Lost episodes ever. It gets a lot of hate, and while it was pretty useless in the grand scheme of things it was a nice lighthearted diversion, it was fun to see familiar events from the prospective of people not in the ingroup, and well, Nikki was pretty hot.
It's the only episode of Lost I've only seen once. I hate it so much. Not because of the tone but because those two actors are so infinitely awful.

Re: TV: Lost

Posted: Thu February 07, 2019 6:59 pm
by Monkey_Driven
durdencommatyler wrote:
4/5 wrote:
Monkey_Driven wrote:We watched the Nikki and Paulo the other night. I loved how incredibly self aware it was.
Ah, one of the most infamous Lost episodes ever. It gets a lot of hate, and while it was pretty useless in the grand scheme of things it was a nice lighthearted diversion, it was fun to see familiar events from the prospective of people not in the ingroup, and well, Nikki was pretty hot.
It's the only episode of Lost I've only seen once. I hate it so much. Not because of the tone but because those two actors are so infinitely awful.
You should watch it again. It has a darkness to it that is very satisfying. I applaud the creators for course correcting with such an overt wink and a nod.

Re: TV: Lost

Posted: Thu February 07, 2019 7:52 pm
by epilogue
Monkey_Driven wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:
4/5 wrote:
Monkey_Driven wrote:We watched the Nikki and Paulo the other night. I loved how incredibly self aware it was.
Ah, one of the most infamous Lost episodes ever. It gets a lot of hate, and while it was pretty useless in the grand scheme of things it was a nice lighthearted diversion, it was fun to see familiar events from the prospective of people not in the ingroup, and well, Nikki was pretty hot.
It's the only episode of Lost I've only seen once. I hate it so much. Not because of the tone but because those two actors are so infinitely awful.
You should watch it again. It has a darkness to it that is very satisfying. I applaud the creators for course correcting with such an overt wink and a nod.
I'm sure I'll give it a go when the wife and I do a rewatch later this year. I'm kinda looking forward to revisiting it at this point.

Re: TV: Lost

Posted: Thu February 07, 2019 9:23 pm
by Monkey_Driven
It's funny, I haven't seen most of these episodes in over 10 years but I can remember the online discussions surrounding each one so vividly. The actual episode not so much.

Re: TV: Lost

Posted: Thu February 07, 2019 9:25 pm
by Simple Torture
Monkey_Driven wrote:It's funny, I haven't seen most of these episodes in over 10 years but I can remember the online discussions surrounding each one so vividly.
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