What is Each Album's Major Flaw?: Vs.

Wendy Carlos's Twin · Post by **Wendy Carlos's Twin** » Thu May 15, 2014 8:25 pm

Acoustic "Hold On" = lamest Pearl Jam song ever

Kevin Davis · Post by **Kevin Davis** » Thu May 15, 2014 9:52 pm

Even lamer than "Future Days?"

bodysnatcher · Post by **bodysnatcher** » Thu May 15, 2014 9:54 pm

nothing is as lame as Future Days.

NOTHING.

Lament · Post by **Lament** » Thu May 15, 2014 10:08 pm

bodysnatcher wrote:nothing is as lame as Future Days.

NOTHING.

Truth.

Thejambi · Post by **Thejambi** » Thu May 15, 2014 10:28 pm

Lament wrote:
bodysnatcher wrote:nothing is as lame as Future Days.

NOTHING.
Truth.

Yeah, it's not even close.

mastaflatch · Post by **mastaflatch** » Thu May 15, 2014 11:53 pm

Thejambi wrote:
Lament wrote:
bodysnatcher wrote:nothing is as lame as Future Days.

NOTHING.
Truth.
Yeah, it's not even close.

Hold On (acoutic is even worse) is insidious. it fools you into thinking it's somewhat good while it really sucks.

Future Days wears its suckiness on its sleeve.

and i personally think that it's not that bad a song. it's not my cup of tea at all, mind you, but its biggest fault is its Brendeanobrienization.

McParadigm · Post by **McParadigm** » Fri May 16, 2014 11:32 am

mastaflatch wrote:
Thejambi wrote:
Lament wrote:
bodysnatcher wrote:nothing is as lame as Future Days.

NOTHING.
Truth.
Yeah, it's not even close.
Hold On (acoutic is even worse) is insidious. it fools you into thinking it's somewhat good while it really sucks.

Future Days wears its suckiness on its sleeve.

and i personally think that it's not that bad a song. it's not my cup of tea at all, mind you, but its biggest fault is its Brendeanobrienization.

Yeah, Hold On acoustic is noticeably worse than Future Days.

Got Some · Post by **Got Some** » Fri May 16, 2014 12:18 pm

Speed of sound sucks worse than both IMHO!!!

Birds in Hell · Post by **Birds in Hell** » Fri May 16, 2014 12:25 pm

Got Some wrote:Speed of sound sucks worse than both IMHO!!!

Oh good heavens no.

Thejambi · Post by **Thejambi** » Fri May 16, 2014 12:58 pm

Speed of Sound is a legitimately good song that has gotten consumed by RM hyperbole and lore.

tommymtcom · Post by **tommymtcom** » Fri May 16, 2014 1:40 pm

Vs. major flaw is obviously Leash. I'd rather listen to Future Days everyday than hear Leash ever again.

bodysnatcher · Post by **bodysnatcher** » Fri May 16, 2014 5:13 pm

yeah, not a fan of leash. it resonated with my 15-16 year old self. But now....

Post by **stip** » Fri May 16, 2014 6:43 pm

Birds in Hell wrote:
Got Some wrote:Speed of sound sucks worse than both IMHO!!!
Oh good heavens no.

none are favorites, but I'd rather listen to any of those than, say, In Hiding .

Tj · Post by Tj » Sat May 17, 2014 8:46 pm

My emotional reaction to Speed Of Sound has now lifted Backspacer to number two all time.

samiad · Post by **samiad** » Sun May 18, 2014 12:07 am

This is pretty flawless IMO.

WMA and Glorified G work in the context of the album, but I guess are slightly weaker on their own. But I'm nitpicking.

And what's with all the hate for Leash?! It's in my top 10 PJ songs. So what if the lyrics are a bit naive, its the songs structure and kick-ass-ness that sells it for me.

The record has the best opener and best closer of any PJ record. And everything in between is nothing less than very good. What more can you ask?!

Thejambi · Post by **Thejambi** » Sun May 18, 2014 2:17 am

Leash is a top 10 song?
Interesting.

Post by **Bammer** » Sun May 18, 2014 2:32 am

Absolutely no flaws. Except maybe that there aren't 15-20 songs on this album. PJ at its best. If you have any complaints about Vs. go blast yourself.

Next.

darthvedder81 · Post by **darthvedder81** » Sun May 18, 2014 7:09 am

I don't know that I can find a major flaw in Vs. Even the length of it is just about perfect. It's my favorite PJ album after Yield.

It's in a lot of ways the definitive classic Pearl Jam album. There's a great deal more variety in the music and the production is much cleaner and less-dated sounding than Ten. The energy on Vs. is ridiculous and the band has never been able to quite match it since.

darthvedder81 · Post by **darthvedder81** » Sun May 18, 2014 7:13 am

Lament wrote:The part where Stone comes in on backing vocals on Glorified G is one of the most dementedly fun moments of their career. Glorified G gets a pass in my book solely for that. It's a shame they don't utilize Stone's voice in that manner more frequently.

Glorified G is just a great groove. It's actually a really simple riff in D but Stone just milks it for all it's worth and makes it sound like so much more. Mike's outro solo is one of his best album solos in my opinion.

I never skip Glorified G or Dissident but WMA gets a pass sometimes just because of it's length (though I still like it's tribal sounding weirdness).

darthvedder81 · Post by **darthvedder81** » Sun May 18, 2014 7:22 am

hlniv wrote:Vs = Dave A = PJ record that made me a fan

Nuff said

It's the record that made me a fan too. I dubbed a friend's tape in 1995 and then finally picked up the CD in 1996 so I was pretty late to the party.

I am a big Matt C. fan but Dave A. was definitely instrumental in crafting the PJ sound. He technically only got a few songwriting credits but his influence is everywhere on Vs and Vitalogy. The band would not sound the same without his influence (I'll bet you anything when Stone was writing DTE he was hearing Dave's drums in his head). Such a shame they couldn't bury the hatchet and get him involved with PJ20.

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