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Re: The Confederate Flag
Posted: Tue June 23, 2015 11:17 pm
by numbers
E.H. Ruddock wrote:numbers wrote:Biff Pocoroba wrote:The South is also the only part of the country to have a regional flag. There is no flag for New England, or the Great Lakes, or the Rocky Mountains, etc. Many people, especially older generations and people whose family lines are long time southern, see it as a symbol of regional pride. To outsiders and non-white minorities may see only an emblem of racism but that's truly not how the stars & bars are seen by a fair number of native southerners, particularly blue collar whites with long local roots. It's "heritage", both for better and worse.
New England actually does have a flag, but no one cares about it.
is it that lightning bolt bridge thing on the Patriots field?

Re: The Confederate Flag
Posted: Tue June 23, 2015 11:37 pm
by bart
hahahahaha
Re: The Confederate Flag
Posted: Tue June 23, 2015 11:45 pm
by numbers
I never said it was cool.
Re: The Confederate Flag
Posted: Tue June 23, 2015 11:48 pm
by Jorge
That's a hilarious flag
Re: The Confederate Flag
Posted: Tue June 23, 2015 11:49 pm
by Jorge
It's like a lamer version of the Lebanese flag.
Re: The Confederate Flag
Posted: Tue June 23, 2015 11:54 pm
by bart
They made their flag with MS Paint.
Re: The Confederate Flag
Posted: Wed June 24, 2015 3:21 am
by Norah
numbers wrote:E.H. Ruddock wrote:numbers wrote:Biff Pocoroba wrote:The South is also the only part of the country to have a regional flag. There is no flag for New England, or the Great Lakes, or the Rocky Mountains, etc. Many people, especially older generations and people whose family lines are long time southern, see it as a symbol of regional pride. To outsiders and non-white minorities may see only an emblem of racism but that's truly not how the stars & bars are seen by a fair number of native southerners, particularly blue collar whites with long local roots. It's "heritage", both for better and worse.
New England actually does have a flag, but no one cares about it.
is it that lightning bolt bridge thing on the Patriots field?

The modern one is actually this:

Re: The Confederate Flag
Posted: Wed June 24, 2015 2:31 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
bart wrote:They made their flag with MS Paint.

Re: The Confederate Flag
Posted: Wed June 24, 2015 6:09 pm
by Strat
http://www.waaytv.com/appnews/warner-br ... 34bf0.html
Ben Jones, Dukes of Hazzard actor, posted a statement on Facebook on the matter.
"That flag on top of the General Lee made a statement that the values of the rural south were the values of courage and family and good times.
Our beloved symbol is now being attacked in a wave of political correctness that is unprecedented in our nation of free speech and free expression. Activists and politicians are villifying southern culture and our heritage as being bigoted and racist. We know that this is not the case. And we know that in Hazzard county there was never any racism."
Re: The Confederate Flag
Posted: Wed June 24, 2015 6:27 pm
by LoathedVermin72
Strat wrote:"And we know that in Hazzard county there was never any racism."

Re: The Confederate Flag
Posted: Wed June 24, 2015 6:36 pm
by Strat
rubes
Re: The Confederate Flag
Posted: Wed June 24, 2015 6:54 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
Yeah the swastika used to mean something else too, but then Hitler. Meanings can change, but most people here in the south are too stupid to see that.
Re: The Confederate Flag
Posted: Wed June 24, 2015 6:55 pm
by Strat
Im pretty certain the confederate flag never changed meanings though
Re: The Confederate Flag
Posted: Wed June 24, 2015 7:09 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
Strat wrote:Im pretty certain the confederate flag never changed meanings though
'murica
Re: The Confederate Flag
Posted: Wed June 24, 2015 11:35 pm
by @SkitchP
LoathedVermin72 wrote:Strat wrote:"And we know that in Hazzard county there was never any racism."

I presume there was no racism because there was only one race in Hazzard county.
Re: The Confederate Flag
Posted: Thu June 25, 2015 11:49 am
by darth_vedder
E.H. Ruddock wrote:Strat wrote:Im pretty certain the confederate flag never changed meanings though
'murica
What gets me about all this is that the confederate flag didn't even fly on state grounds until the 60's, right around the time of civil rights. They sent a clear message what they thought the flag meant.
If they decide to build a monument, or some museum, then by all means, fly all the flags of the war, including the various confederate ones. Otherwise, there really isn't any place for it.
Re: The Confederate Flag
Posted: Thu June 25, 2015 1:36 pm
by Green Habit
darth_vedder wrote:What gets me about all this is that the confederate flag didn't even fly on state grounds until the 60's, right around the time of civil rights. They sent a clear message what they thought the flag meant.
This reminds me of the fact that currency and the Pledge of Allegiance weren't plastered with God talk until the 1950s. A lot of these "traditions" sure have a way of targeting disadvantaged classes.
Re: The Confederate Flag
Posted: Thu June 25, 2015 4:30 pm
by darth_vedder
This is a good article, and pretty much says how I feel:
http://theweek.com/articles/562004/surp ... erate-flag
Re: The Confederate Flag
Posted: Fri June 26, 2015 1:26 am
by B
I stopped into a bar tonight in Williamston, NC and found myself in a discussion about how the Civil War had nothing to do with slavery. It was fought because the North taxed Southern cotton.
Re: The Confederate Flag
Posted: Fri June 26, 2015 1:38 am
by @SkitchP
B wrote:I stopped into a bar tonight in Williamston, NC and found myself in a discussion about how the Civil War had nothing to do with slavery. It was fought because the North taxed Southern cotton.
Southern Cotton is projected as a late first round selection tonight.