Re: The God topic
Posted: Thu March 14, 2013 1:01 pm
Your timing was perfect!turned2black wrote:My mini midlife crisis is over. I'm back to just saying, "Fuck god!"
Your timing was perfect!turned2black wrote:My mini midlife crisis is over. I'm back to just saying, "Fuck god!"
Specially with that new pope.harmless wrote:You should listen to your conscience; it will lead you to a good life, generally. If God is talking to you, you're probably schizophrenic.
I was drunk when I said this, but I still agree with it now.VinylGuy wrote:Specially with that new pope.harmless wrote:You should listen to your conscience; it will lead you to a good life, generally. If God is talking to you, you're probably schizophrenic.
elliseamos wrote:as an atheist, it's pretty easy to differentiate god's voice and my conscience.
But there is evil. Lots of it. Where might it come from? God? The Devil? Adam and Eve?Confessor wrote:"... the teaching of both these Churches is that God is not merely necessary to have created the universe, but that His active presence is necessary in some way for every bit of creation, from smallest to greatest, to continue to exist at all. That is, God's energies maintain all things and all beings, even if those beings have explicitly rejected Him. His love of creation is such that he will not withdraw His presence, which would be the ultimate form of slaughter, not merely imposing death but ending existence, altogether. By this token, the entirety of creation is sanctified, and thus no part of creation can be considered innately evil. This does not deny the existence of evil in a fallen universe, only that it is not an innate property of creation. "
Discuss.
woah, freedom is way slippier than free willharmless wrote:I think that if there is a creator God at all, then he has created the capacity for evil, as it only takes intelligence and freedom (not 'free will', a concept I find problematic theologically) to make evil happen. Just as every created system or thing has the capacity for malfunction.
Well, that only supports my point. I didn't meant that I don't like 'free will', just that I think the term is unhelpful. As you say, it's not truly free.dkfan9 wrote:woah, freedom is way slippier than free willharmless wrote:I think that if there is a creator God at all, then he has created the capacity for evil, as it only takes intelligence and freedom (not 'free will', a concept I find problematic theologically) to make evil happen. Just as every created system or thing has the capacity for malfunction.

What is the context of the pamphlets? I'm very curious.McParadigm wrote:The lady who quit the other day left us all envelopes full of the craziest looking pamphlets. I've been trying to interpret/process this image for over 48 hours, now...
It's like a Do the Evolution comic book, but what's happening here? Is God the bad guy? IS that God? Is the priest terrified or elated? Those enormous hands seem to be closing in around him...what's going to happen to him? Wait....does the priest have an army? Is that what is happening here? Or is he actually an operatic singer serenading some terribly unclear sequence of events?
I think she just wanted me to join her church, but instead she really fucked up my world view. Bitch.
my thoughts from looking at that:McParadigm wrote:The lady who quit the other day left us all envelopes full of the craziest looking pamphlets. I've been trying to interpret/process this image for over 48 hours, now...
It's like a Do the Evolution comic book, but what's happening here? Is God the bad guy? IS that God? Is the priest terrified or elated? Those enormous hands seem to be closing in around him...what's going to happen to him? Wait....does the priest have an army? Is that what is happening here? Or is he actually an operatic singer serenading some terribly unclear sequence of events?
I think she just wanted me to join her church, but instead she really fucked up my world view. Bitch.
All I really remember is that it said God can't lie. But then it quoted John talking about God's plan, and I thought that was weird because it never said that JOHN couldn't lie.E.H. Ruddock wrote:What is the context of the pamphlets? I'm very curious.